Your average conspiracy theorist.

[Dondi]

"What the world need now is love, sweet love...."

My apologies to Burt.

How about we steer clear of bashing each other over the head? After all, this is a discussion forum.

Now about these conspiracy theories....

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by Dondi

Are you talking about Kennedy or our current administration? If the former, Kennedy was not a lame duck. He'd probably would have won again in '64 if had the small matter of his death not been an issue. As far as our current President, you aren't planning something are you?

I think Kennedy was naturally altruistic and that got him killed. The killing itself as a random act of madness on the part of Oswald is so implausible that it is probably the least likely theory.

As for you current President whom is clearly quackers I might be....want to help ? (I always wanted to visit Cuba).

Tao

[Dondi]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

I think Kennedy was naturally altruistic and that got him killed. The killing itself as a random act of madness on the part of Oswald is so implausible that it is probably the least likely theory.

As for you current President whom is clearly quackers I might be....want to help ? (I always wanted to visit Cuba).

Tao

I'll...pass.

But at least we agree on JFK. I think the only thing that could resolve the issue is for someone to produce a clear film clip or snap shot at the instant of the fatal hit from the opposite side of the motorcade, across from where Zaputer was, pointed towards the picket fence on the grassy knoll. None of these fuzzy, unfocused ghostly images of what might be a man with a badge, a rifle, and smoke, like your see here and here.

[wil]

Originally Posted by Dondi

But at least we agree on JFK.

Do we, is that a consensus that a second shooter a conspiracy to kill JFK is no longer a conspiracy but an unprovable fact? Where does that leave us??

[Dondi]

Never said it was fact, I was merely agreeing with Tao that the lone gunman is the least likely theory. I don't think we will know either way this side of eternity, if at all.

[Alex P]

Faithful my sister(?) I am not on anyones side here I was just asking you a question sorry... I think we all seriously need to lift off some weight here and chill out a little, have a chuckle and some joy.

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by Alex P

Faithful my sister(?) I am not on anyones side here I was just asking you a question sorry... I think we all seriously need to lift off some weight here and chill out a little, have a chuckle and some joy.

Sounds like you have some particularly fine herb at the moment

[Alex P]

When have I not?

Don't you think that sometimes we need to step back and think wait a minute, I am getting frustrated and heated up over a conversation on a computer.... Chilax..

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by Alex P

When have I not?

Don't you think that sometimes we need to step back and think wait a minute, I am getting frustrated and heated up over a conversation on a computer.... Chilax..

Oh.... I thought we came here to masturbate our intellects

[Alex P]

If we do then that is hilarious Seeing intelligence ain't all that :s

[greymare]

eeewwwww

[Ciel]

Originally Posted by Dondi

"What the world need now is love, sweet love...."


How about we steer clear of bashing each other over the head? After all, this is a discussion forum.

....

Thank you Dondi,


And Tao...... can you stop the avatar, you are hurting yourself.....
Have you become your own conspiracy theory..........?????

peace - c -

[Ciel]

Do earthquakes have anything to do with the arisings of monks?

. c -

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by Ciel

Do earthquakes have anything to do with the arisings of monks?

. c -

Nope, and they wont go blind either

[path_of_one]

Ah, conspiracy theories. The joy. The fun.

The best part is no one can prove anything and everyone can get properly worked up about it, so you can wind up with pointless passionate conversation... similar to bad religious debate.

I think there is a long-term theme of what "really happens"- the elite screw over the majority, then convince most of that majority to support the elite and be good sheeple. In the United States, this is mostly accomplished through crappy news shows that don't actually give any news ("Up next, learn what stupid antic Brittney Spears did last Thursday!"), public education systems that discourage critical thinking ("Just memorize that list of facts and regurgitate it on the next multiple-choice exam, Johnny."), and an economy that rests on people buying crap to make themselves feel better about life ("If you only drove a BMW, you'd feel great!") Basically, most Americans are manipulated and rather than question, they become full participants by furthering this crap- they gossip rather than really supporting people, they spend the bulk of their free time watching crummy TV shows, they are good consumers who give free advertising to companies by paything them to wearing large logos on themselves.

It's not anything new, really. Ever since people settled in one location and some guy could hoard something, there have been elites and commoners, and the elites seek to control, dominate, exploit, and manipulate the ordinary folks as much as they can get away with.

I don't for one second believe any president coming from old money has any of the ordinary Americans' lives as a priority. We're a bunch of expendable, exploitable assets.

Now, whether or not Bush was somehow involved in a great 9/11 hoopla or whether he just has horrifically managed everything since is not as great a concern to me as the fact that we happily spend money we don't have to have wars we don't need while 25% of our nation has no health care, half our nation's poor are children, and our public education system goes into the toilet making sure there are plenty of children "left behind."

I think it comes down to money. Critical thinkers are bad consumers. They are harder to manipulate. Harder to win loyalty. They criticize actions and question and probe. Easier to make money off the American people, both through retail and through war, if people just swallow the patriotic/capitalist line. I have no great conspiracy theories, but I also have no trust for the elite. I don't know anyone who has studied world history extensively and does, because it's the same old story over and over. Different nation/empire/whatever, different leaders... same old routine.

Originally Posted by Faithfulservant

In my neck of the woods... you would be called a nazi.

I am not defending Tao, but I am curious... how is anything he's saying relevant to the Nazi party? Or in Texas does the word "Nazi" just mean "someone who is against the current leadership of the US"? I'm confused... In my neck of the woods, Nazi means a person in support of the anti-Semitic German-based political party that took over in the early part of the 1900s and led to WWII and the Holocaust. Not sure what Tao's comments or conspiracy theories have to do with that?