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05-15-2008, 12:05 AM
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Re: Your average conspiracy theorist.
wow Tao.. You keep digging yourself in deeper dont you..
In my neck of the woods... you would be called a nazi.
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05-15-2008, 12:18 AM
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Re: Your average conspiracy theorist.
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Originally Posted by Tao_Equus
9/11 Facts:
The brother of George Bush took over the security at both Dulles Airport and the Twin Towers complex in the months preceding 9/11.
A friend of the Bush Family bought the Twin towers Complex, (totalling 15 buildings in all), from the City Of New York Port Authority for $14million less than 4 months before the attack. Under $1million a piece for prime New York real estate!! This man negotiated a very specific non-standard insurance policy for the complex that eventually netted him 7 billion dollars.
In the weeks before 9/11 several floors were cleared and offices moved. The weekend before both the twin towers were closed for 'maintenance'. Many witnesses claim that a new network of cabling was seen throughout the buildings following this work.
It is impossible for a jet fuel fire to get hot enough to melt steel girders.
Traces of US army issue type high explosives were found on the steel.
The brother of Osama Bin Laden was in Texas at the Bush ranch at the time of the attack. The only civilian flight authorised to take off in the 36 hours immediately following the attack took them back to Saudi Arabia.
Osama Bin Laden was a CIA trained operative charged with controlling the mujahadin and ousting Russian forces from Afghanistan. Bush snr was intimately linked with the Bin Laden family at this time.The Bush family have links to key players in the opium trade of Afghanistan going back at least 4 generations. Russian occupation and then the Taliban was not good for profits.
And there is more, so much more. I cannot prove it, and if I am honest I do not want to believe it, but there are so many fingers pointing in one direction that it is hard to dismiss it. Some of you may remember I started writing a report on all the information I was gathering. I have still not completed it. The reason for that is there is so much evidence and so many players all seemingly complicit in not just 9/11 but the global drugs trade, illegal arms trade, several high profile deaths and more. It is the biggest Pandora's box I ever opened. But this is giving me motivation to get back to work on it. And i will complete it!!
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lol I just read this and it sounds like Michael Moore propaganda. Let me ask ... do you believe everything you read or hear? Do you understand the difference between fact and fiction? Whats even more hilarious is that you make claims like this without proof and you think that it holds legitimacy based on your word alone.. Give me a break.
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05-15-2008, 05:08 AM
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Re: Your average conspiracy theorist.
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Originally Posted by wil
Namaste Tao,
There is the case of the repeat a lie often enough and it is beleived to be true. (For instance you seem to feel religion has done this to the masses)
There does exist a conspiratorial religion yes?
Anywho these 'facts' can you name the sources, which means do your source web pages contain source information?
Like a brother of George Bush, does the man not have a name?
A friend of George Bush, same question, his name? Transfer of titles of property and owners are public record, 14 million for 15 buildings would be a steal and unless it was part of a 1031 exchange I seriously doubt it. (ie who would sell at that price, who was previous owner)
Tens of thousands of folks are directly linked to the Bin Laden family the family is HUGE and has its hands in construction, manufacturing and oil around the world. Osama is not very popular among the brothers.
I remember reading the claims and the refruting of the claims (ie building was not shut down) however floors are cleared all the time, one tenant moves out, entire floors are gutted and rebuilt under the designs of the new tenant. On building that size I'm guessing there are always 5-10 floors being worked on.
Funny, Dondi wants degrees of Theorists ie, second shooter not to extreme...I believe we had knowledge of pearl harbor...hmmmm to find our demographic do we only have to look in the mirror?
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The reason I did not state names Wil is that all this is still on the hard drive of my old computer and in making the post here I was not stopping to get the cables out etc to connect up that drive. Most of the documents are public record. If they had not been I myself would have dismissed this long ago. I'm afraid you are just going to have to wait till I have completed at least a summary synopsis of what I found. Alternatively you could look into it yourself. I also checked out 2 debunking sites and found both to be full of people employed by Bush and Co.
Tao
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05-15-2008, 05:24 AM
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Re: Your average conspiracy theorist.
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lol I just read this and it sounds like Michael Moore propaganda. Let me ask ... do you believe everything you read or hear? Do you understand the difference between fact and fiction? Whats even more hilarious is that you make claims like this without proof and you think that it holds legitimacy based on your word alone.. Give me a break.
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You know I have very little time for fatuous people that are too lazy to think for themselves. A few months ago you were stalking me round my posts and your back at it again. Jumping in with your fawning additions to other peoples posts to me, trying to provoke me. I really think you should go see your doctor. You are obviously sick in the head.
Nazi, you mean like him?....
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05-15-2008, 01:59 PM
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Re: Your average conspiracy theorist.
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What??!! You don't believe in the second shooter theory, wil? Are you that naive?
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Who cares ;/ He's dead and gone lol.
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05-15-2008, 03:26 PM
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Re: Your average conspiracy theorist.
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Who cares ;/ He's dead and gone lol.
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And you've missed the point about conspiracy theories.
The issue is not that JFK is dead and gone, but rather if there were more than one gunman, then that implies an organized hit.
If Oswald acted alone, then we can just chalk it up to a crazed, discontented shooter, and go on our merry way.
But if it was an organized hit, who coordinated it? It has strong repercussions if it turns out to be an inside job, for if it happened once, it could happen again. How are we able to trust our own government if there are those within it that are willing to assassinate our President?
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05-15-2008, 03:34 PM
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Re: Your average conspiracy theorist.
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And you've missed the point about conspiracy theories.
The issue is not that JFK is dead and gone, but rather if there were more than one gunman, then that implies an organized hit.
If Oswald acted alone, then we can just chalk it up to a crazed, discontented shooter, and go on our merry way.
But if it was an organized hit, who coordinated it? It has strong repercussions if it turns out to be an inside job, for if it happened once, it could happen again. How are we able to trust our own government if there are those within it that are willing to assassinate our President?
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Sorry I didn't miss the point, the dude is dead, and that is kinda permanent... So no matter what happens, the dudes dead. And as the shining history of American presidents show... Yeah, it will happen again. Thats a given. So be it the goverment or mafia or just some guy teaching his kid how to shoot on the grassy knowle and by accident took out Johnny... I just fail to understand the point, not that I missed it, I just don't get it.
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05-15-2008, 04:04 PM
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Re: Your average conspiracy theorist.
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How are we able to trust our own government if there are those within it that are willing to assassinate our President?
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I thought it an honourable action to put a lame duck out of its misery?
Tao
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05-15-2008, 04:15 PM
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Re: Your average conspiracy theorist.
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I thought it an honourable action to put a lame duck out of its misery?
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*giggles*
Below the belt :P
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05-15-2008, 04:42 PM
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Re: Your average conspiracy theorist.
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I thought it an honourable action to put a lame duck out of its misery?
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Still some anger over the revolution? This from subject of the Queen? Something about glass houses comes to mind. Me thinks all our gov'ts and leaders have their issues. Speaking of conspiracies and 'only in America', aren't thier a few revolving around the royals, or is that just this side of the pond too?
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05-15-2008, 04:50 PM
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Re: Your average conspiracy theorist.
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I thought it an honourable action to put a lame duck out of its misery?
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Are you talking about Kennedy or our current administration? If the former, Kennedy was not a lame duck. He'd probably would have won again in '64 if had the small matter of his death not been an issue. As far as our current President, you aren't planning something are you?
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05-15-2008, 04:55 PM
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Re: Your average conspiracy theorist.
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you aren't planning something are you?
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Money plays.......
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05-15-2008, 05:15 PM
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Re: Your average conspiracy theorist.
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You know I have very little time for fatuous people that are too lazy to think for themselves. A few months ago you were stalking me round my posts and your back at it again. Jumping in with your fawning additions to other peoples posts to me, trying to provoke me. I really think you should go see your doctor. You are obviously sick in the head.
Nazi, you mean like him?....
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What a joke... you just keep proving how absolutely ignorant you are and have no grasp on reality.. what a joke that you say I dont think for myself when you spend your days searching out every conspiracy anti US anti jew internet sites for your crazy posts that anyone with any common sense and intellligence would completely disregard.
I have never stalked you... give me a break... if you mean calling you on your idiotic nonsense... ? someone has to.
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05-15-2008, 05:20 PM
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Re: Your average conspiracy theorist.
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What a joke... you just keep proving how absolutely ignorant you are and have no grasp on reality.. what a joke that you say I dont think for myself when you spend your days searching out every conspiracy anti US anti jew internet sites for your crazy posts that anyone with any common sense and intellligence would completely disregard.
I have never stalked you... give me a break... if you mean calling you on your idiotic nonsense... ? someone has to.
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He is ignorant for having his free choice to compare Bush to Hitler? I don't believe we should judge anyone's veiw -ever- as idiotic nonsense.... Not even some of the stuff that comes out of Bush's mouth 
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05-15-2008, 06:53 PM
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Re: Your average conspiracy theorist.
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He is ignorant for having his free choice to compare Bush to Hitler? I don't believe we should judge anyone's veiw -ever- as idiotic nonsense.... Not even some of the stuff that comes out of Bush's mouth 
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He's ignorant for many reasons the one thats bugging me the most at the moment is using a post I made about past drug use in the health forum as a means to insult my intellligence on a political forum..
trust me he doesnt need you to stick up for him.. he plays dirty enough that he can take it when its dished back.
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