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[wil]

Originally Posted by seattlegal

We are defined by our free will? Are we stealing the personhood of someone when we deny them free will? Not the best fit, imo.

Yes and yes...imo

It is our choices that develop who we are.

If our choices are bad in the eyes of those in power the typical response is to imprison, fine, or execute. The latter denies the personhood, the first denies free will and the middle attempts to modify behaviour....now that person could feel that his personhood was being denied....or may modify and decide it was a blessing that he was able to seek a higher personhood....again this being in the eyes of the society which he is in....in another cosiety s/he may not have been an issue at all....

[Virtual_Cliff]

What is a person. That's difficult. In Christianity God is three persons. In the USA, for certain legal reasons, a corporation is a person.

Yet in terms of physical make-up each of us is a totally different person from the one we were seven years ago, because all our body cells have changed. In this case it is only the internal narrative of our lives as recalled in our memory that identifies us as the same person that we were born as.

Then again it is said of some people suffering from brain damage or dementia that they have become "a different person", while of course in law they are still the same.

Is my pet cat a person? Does a person have to be human? What about God?
Any ideas?

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by Virtual_Cliff

What is a person. That's difficult.

That's why I asked

Yet in terms of physical make-up each of us is a totally different person from the one we were seven years ago, because all our body cells have changed.In this case it is only the internal narrative of our lives as recalled in our memory that identifies us as the same person that we were born as.

Indeed. And we're changing moment by moment in order to be completely "replaced" over that seven year period.

Is my pet cat a person?

Does a person have to be human?

According to the dictionary. But the adjective "personality" is of course another thing. I'm certain your cat has one of those!

What about God?

Well that of course depends upon what one understands this term to refer to.

s.

[Paladin]

Originally Posted by Snoopy

Thanks for that!

Perhaps someone should set up an online version: edumpster.com...

What y'all call a dumpster we call a skip. Crazy huh.

s.

Y'all ?

[flowperson]

He's been trying to translate some of my posts again. An impossible feat and it tends to permanently warp brains, especially older ones.

flow....

[Snoopy]

Sorry I wasn't being rude; I just didn't know what Paladin meant!

Pass the liniment.

s.

[Leafblade]

Originally Posted by Snoopy

What constitutes a "person" ?

s.

Don't know, why should I worry about that? (Forgive me if this sounds blunt)

[Paladin]

Sorry Snoopy, I never heard you use the word "Y'all" before. As in Y'all come back now ya heah?

[seattlegal]

Y'all need to remember that there hasn't been no proper linguistic distinction between the second person singular and plural since the words 'thee,' 'thou,' and their variations went out of style, leaving us stuck with "y'all" as a means to make the distinction. Even the title of this thread, "You," is technically plural. (Did we lose the idea of personhood through the change of language?)

[AndrewX]

Originally Posted by seattlegal

Y'all need to remember that there hasn't been no proper linguistic distinction ...

ROFL ... this is the funniest thing I've seen in `print' in a long time!!!

Thank you for that, seattlegal!

[seattlegal]

Originally Posted by AndrewX

ROFL ... this is the funniest thing I've seen in `print' in a long time!!!

Thank you for that, seattlegal!

With all of the fires around lately, a little humor is in order.

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by Leafblade

Don't know, why should I worry about that? (Forgive me if this sounds blunt)

Fear not, I wasn't wanting anybody to worry.

s.

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by Paladin

Sorry Snoopy, I never heard you use the word "Y'all" before. As in Y'all come back now ya heah?

Y'all having a real bad influence on me, ya hear me now bro?

s.

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by seattlegal

Y'all need to remember that there hasn't been no proper linguistic distinction between the second person singular and plural since the words 'thee,' 'thou,' and their variations went out of style, leaving us stuck with "y'all" as a means to make the distinction.

Maybe these things have gone "out of style", as you put it, in the colonies, but we still still speak properly at home. Same goes for double negatives such as "hasn't been no"



s.

[seattlegal]

Originally Posted by Snoopy

Maybe these things have gone "out of style", as you put it, in the colonies,

Colonies? As in bacterial? Perhaps you meant hives?

...but we still still speak properly at home. Same goes for double negatives such as "hasn't been no"



s.

Well, being part of the colonies, with no concrete distinction as to what defines an individual person, it can be rather difficult to express ones thoughts clearly if you cannot differentiate between the thoughts one selects as one's own to express and those one does not select as one's own. These thoughts get jumbled together, which leads towards the phenomenon known as 'babble.'



Conclusion: the concept of a 'self,' with the right balance of permeability and impermeability, is necessary in order to avoid the phenomena known as babble.