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Old 08-13-2007, 04:17 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Children see the world with a better light most the time.
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Old 08-13-2007, 04:23 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Children see the world with a better light most the time.
Yep, just a shame we keep knackering the place for them.
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Old 08-13-2007, 04:49 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Yep, just a shame we keep knackering the place for them.
Not only their enviroment, but their minds! :\ We corrupt them as we corrupt our surrondings.
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Old 08-13-2007, 04:58 PM   #34 (permalink)
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But is it self-made or has G-d led us exactly where He wants us? Oh no, one of those circular religious arguments. It is something I often consider, have I chosen this path because it suits my thinking these days or has G-d led me to it? I pray the latter but fear the former.
Oh those lovely tautologies

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Old 08-13-2007, 04:58 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Yeah but, that's what he says right? Like Jehovah says there is no other godd but him, and so on and so forth... So you can see even with a "right path" option being available to everyone, there are so many that say this is the right path and this is what god wants.... But without god himself coming downstairs and telling you to your face this is this and that is that.... You cannot be 100% you are right, and it's just crazy! lol... Cause you just will never know till your six foot under.
It's the love that matters in my book, not the path.

"The form [of God] you are seeing with your transcendental eyes cannot be understood simply by studying scriptures, nor by undergoing serious penances, nor by charity, nor by worship. It is not by these means that one can see Me as I am.

My dear Arjuna, only by undivided devotional service can I be understood as I am, standing before you, and can thus be seen directly. Only in this way can you enter into the mysteries of My understanding."

"Abandon all varieties of religion and just surrender unto Me. I shall deliver you from all sinful reactions. Do not fear."

- from Bhagavad-Gita, Chapters 11 & 18


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Old 08-13-2007, 05:23 PM   #36 (permalink)
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is that talking about bhakti as the best approach? Trying not to forget the terms I learned when I read Sri Aurobindo, but want to make sure I understand them correctly.
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Old 08-13-2007, 07:36 PM   #37 (permalink)
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If an angel/spirit or whatever you believe in turned up today and said to you "you are on the wrong path, choose a different one", which new path would you choose?
Without further knowledge about what invalidated my current path, I would have no basis for choosing a new one.


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Old 08-13-2007, 07:57 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Actually there's a new TV show on American TV that is sort of based on this issue-"Saving Grace-" airs @ 9 pm central time Mondays. The angel showing up for the main character, Grace, is my kind of angel-goes by the name of Earl. Resembles me in other ways-about my age and build-a bit portly, a bit slovenly, universalistic, enjoys a good "chaw," (don't do chew but a pipe's my thing). Now when they finally show him enjoying happy hour I'll really relate. Amusing and yet a bit thought-provoking program. earl
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Old 08-13-2007, 09:14 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Dauer and MW...with regard to your conversation above about "special" foods.

There were three special food items associated with the ancient Hebrews' priesthood...shewbread, which was braided and circular in form, like challah, and had a prominent place on the table in the holy of holies; the pomegranate...which many surmise had symbolic significance with regard to the concept of fecundity; and, mandrake root which may have had hallucinogenic properties under certain circumstances of preparation. That's all I've retained over the years about it.

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Old 08-13-2007, 09:28 PM   #40 (permalink)
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If'n I conjured up an angel to redirect my path, the conjured angel would lead the way....

If'n G!d provided said angel, I'd expect the same..

If'n I was given the proverbial nudge, an involuntary extraterrestrial inner indication that the direction I was following was not the main path but a cleverly disguised detour...

and if'n I was forced to choose...

I'd grab hold of the hand of one of my friends here and skip down the road a while with them... we'd dig into the books, and frolic in the sun and see if I got another nudge...one that lead me forward or aside...



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Any nudge would lead inwardly
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If an angel appeared to me and told meI was on the wrong path..... Id probably sh-t myself first. lol. I'd like to think I'd follow his/her advice but knowing me I'd want some proof and then I'd question his authority and where he/she actually came from and who was his/her boss. By that time I'd probably be out of time and then I'd have all the answers i"d need. thats knowing my luck, anyway. love the grey
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Neemai,

is that talking about bhakti as the best approach? Trying not to forget the terms I learned when I read Sri Aurobindo, but want to make sure I understand them correctly.
Hi Dauer,

It is about "bhakti" specifically, the Sanskrit is:

bhaktya -- by devotional service; tu -- but; ananyaya -- [pure] without being mixed with fruitive activities or speculative knowledge;

So pure devotion (to God) without any other motivation, which I personally see as a universal concept, not applying to any one specific tradition (although it doesn't sit well with pure-monist philosophies).


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Old 08-15-2007, 07:28 AM   #43 (permalink)
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There were three special food items associated with the ancient Hebrews' priesthood...shewbread, which was braided and circular in form, like challah, and had a prominent place on the table in the holy of holies; the pomegranate...which many surmise had symbolic significance with regard to the concept of fecundity; and, mandrake root which may have had hallucinogenic properties under certain circumstances of preparation. That's all I've retained over the years about it.
I eat rather a lot of pomegranates in Egypt but have yet to see an angel, so shall have to find out if mandrake root is available. Thank you for the info Flow.

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we'd dig into the books, and frolic in the sun and see if I got another nudge...one that lead me forward or aside...
Always a great attitude Wil. Sorry I am not allowed to frolic but books and the sun, I am there.

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If an angel appeared to me and told meI was on the wrong path..... Id probably sh-t myself first.
Nearly wet myself laughing, to be honest I think I would probably have bowel difficulties, once the faint was over of course. I have often lain in the dark thinking please G-d let me see an angel or spirit and a voice in the back of my head is screaming 'it's ok, just her ignore her, we don't really want to see one honest but thanks all the same.
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I have often lain in the dark thinking please G-d let me see an angel or spirit
I think we've all been there.
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I think we've all been there.
But have you seen one and if you did what you do?
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