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Soul Rebel
Join Date: Jul 2003
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World Trade Talks collapse
I'm not quite sure what to make of this yet.
On the one hand, agricultural subsidies are an obvious injustice in the "free trade" movement - which is especially espoused by those very nationals most repsonsible for it, despite the damaging effects imports of such artificially cheap produce can have on local communities. Yet the West has often run a political game of "poker" - where hands are dealt by governments to their dioplomats, who must then play a game of bluff, coercion, and shared hands, to ensure that everyone mostly enjoys the game - and, more imporantly, gets something out of it, even if they plainly lost. I somehow suspect there's a lot of truth in the accusation that developing nations are refusing to negotiate properly - more likely, they do not acknowledge the subtleties of this game of Western Political Poker, and instead instead that face-valie issues are treated at face value. However, of course, there remains the continuing intransigence of the riher nations, such as the EU and USA, who will continue to instance on the historical precedent - that the poor must be obedient to the rich. It will be interesting to see how well the poorer the nations can play on the other historical precedent - that with proper organisation, even rich masters can be overthrown. Definitely some interesting developments for the future to watch out for - assuming the Western nations do not pick off the G21 group one by one, through clauses in inidividual (and no doubt somewhat favourable) trade agreements. Here's the story: Quote:
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Seeker of Knowledge
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Toulouse, France
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As a first analysis (I didn't investigate in details that particular WTO meeting), I would say the following.
The developping countries are generally right to require the developped countries to stop subsidizing their agriculture, would it only be as a matter of principle. However, it is well-known that agriculture is certainly not what helps a country to develop its economy. Suspending subsidies would temporarily help the developped countries gain a foothold in Europe, Japan and the US agriculture markets, but no state has eever grown rich recently by exporting beef and maize. Agriculture in developping country creates low-pay, labor-intensive, low-education, low added value jobs... not what one needs to develop and raise the living standand of the population. It is interresting to note the three "developping" countries who took the lead in defending developping countries: Brazil, China and India. Although these countries have an important agricultural production, they are far from being dependent on agriculture and are quickly joining the ranks of developped countries, producing airplanes, software and electronic equipment that is currently sold all over the world. Although it is painful for developping countries, where very often the industrial market is very much controlled by the state, to see the risk of foreign multinationals taking control of local production, one must realize that these companies actually are the ones who have the money and investment to help developping countries create new industries, raising education standards, and creating new and better paid jobs. But obviously these industries will not go somewhere where investment is not protected and where trade barriers are actually hindering import and export. In any case, it is not in the interest of the poorer nations to abandon the trade talks. They need the technology from the richer nations to develop their economy, and they need the markets of the richer nations to sell their current products. On the other hand, richer nations need the poorer ones because of the availability of cheaper labor and as a future export market (China, India and Brazil... interesting market potential). This is a typical exmaple of what economists call the "reef theory". Once the sea withdraws, the reefs become apparent, and are much more dangerous to the boats. In economic terms, the most important barrier to trade fifty years ago were customs tariffs. These are dramatically lower now than then thanks to the first GATT negotiation rounds. Other aspects, like quotas, came to the surface. These were partially taken care of in more recent negotiation rounds. Now we face the issues of subsidies and legal barriers to trade (IPR, investment protection, etc.) which are more and more difficult to negotiate. In case I bored everybody, I apologize... ![]() Baud |
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