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Old 12-09-2007, 02:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Why Christians believe in Jesus although he doesn't fulfill the prophecies??

I read about an article in the internet about why Jews don't believe in Jesus Christ. They stated that Jesus did not fulfill the messiah prophecies as stated in the old testament (Hebrew bible). I would like to know what is the opinion of Christians..
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Old 12-09-2007, 05:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Why Christians believe in Jesus although he doesn't fulfill the prophecies??

he has fulfilled prophecies, and some are still future, but will come to pass.
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Old 04-28-2008, 03:36 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Why Christians believe in Jesus although he doesn't fulfill the prophecies??

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he has fulfilled prophecies, and some are still future, but will come to pass.

How can you "fulfill prophecies" in the future?
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Old 04-28-2008, 03:02 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I read about an article in the internet about why Jews don't believe in Jesus Christ. They stated that Jesus did not fulfill the messiah prophecies as stated in the old testament (Hebrew bible). I would like to know what is the opinion of Christians..
What do you call a jew that believes that Jesus fullfilled the prophecies?? A christian.

It is simply the difference between Jews and Christians. Yes Jews may have wrote those books in the old testament, but we've widely spread our interpretation of them and made it our own.

So the question is, what do you believe, and then you'll find the group that agrees most with your beliefs.
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Re: Why Christians believe in Jesus although he doesn't fulfill the prophecies??

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What do you call a jew that believes that Jesus fullfilled the prophecies?? A christian.
Which would mean, Jesus would have had to fullfilled the old testament (jewish) prophecies but the whole globe knows that did not happen!

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It is simply the difference between Jews and Christians. Yes Jews may have wrote those books in the old testament, but we've widely spread our interpretation of them and made it our own.
Who is 'our' but another secularization? There's your proof.......... that JC didn't finish the work!

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So the question is, what do you believe, and then you'll find the group that agrees most with your beliefs.
Who cares about finding a group unless that group is purely honest?

Name one 'group' on earth!

All any has to do is ask; does life evolve?... to begin with.
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How can you "fulfill prophecies" in the future?
He has fulfilled prophecies. There are prophecies he will fulfill in the future. For me, it is as good as fulfilled, since i believe in Him with all my heart and soul. For Christ, these prophecies have already been fulfilled since He is outside of our time. He is the beginning and the end, alpha and omega, eternal.
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Old 04-29-2008, 02:19 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Why Christians believe in Jesus although he doesn't fulfill the prophecies??

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I read about an article in the internet about why Jews don't believe in Jesus Christ. They stated that Jesus did not fulfill the messiah prophecies as stated in the old testament (Hebrew bible). I would like to know what is the opinion of Christians..
Christians don't usually know much about Jews, which has resulted in a lot of diversification in Christianity over the centuries. There are many extremely different kinds of Christians. Modern Jews do not seem to have a lot of interest in Christianity. Christians accept that Jesus can partially fulfill the prophecies until his return. Most modern Jews do not like that idea.

I'm not a modern Jew, however I think modern Jews expect Elijah to return and bring a restoration of everything that's been lost (check with them on the details). After Elijah does this, or perhaps along with Elijah will come a savior who will bring even more far reaching changes for everyone -- not just Jews. The savior will be as powerful a prophet as Moses was, judging with the same or possibly more authority. The savior will provide good laws for everyone everywhere -- not just for Israel. There is much much more to be said about it.

A Christian claims to be already part of a spiritually renewed world, a partial restoration or shadow of things to come that begins with John the Baptist. Christians consider John the Baptist to be a spiritual embodiment of Elijah, although not the actual Elijah, the man who must return. Views vary on this, but Elijah should literally return and Jesus should literally return as the scriptures indicate. That is when the restoration truly begins. Everything must still be restored that was lost, and it simply hasn't all been done yet.

Christians believe that non Jews can be added to Israel through means other than keeping all of the mitzvos and circumcision, by keeping the law of love through faith. This doesn't make non Jews into Jews, but something like that. There is much more to be said about it, of course. Modern Jews suggest this kind of conversion is unnecessary and perhaps impossible.
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