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Old 07-17-2006, 07:33 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Re: Ahmadi View

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In the above spirit expressed by you, I submit my view on the topic “Who is Jesus?” Mine is basically and naturally view of an Ahmadi - a faith in Islam, since I am follower of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (AS, 1835-1908), who proclaimed that he was the same Messiah/Imam Mahdi as prophesized by Hazrat Muhammad (SAW) in his Tradition or Ahadith and as alluded in Quran,a true Spiritual and Peaceful Successor of Muhammad in the latter days.
Following points must be carefully noted here so that one does not misunderstand the Claim of Ahmad, right from the start.
1. Ahmad, as per his claim, is neither literally born of Mary mother of Jesus nor he is literally Jesus, a prophet of Israel who was put on Cross by his opponents, but he did not die a cursed/unnatural death on Cross, though he swooned on the Cross, treated for his serious injuries in the grave, yet got cured, met his disciples and confidents, showed his wounds to them ate with them so they may recognize him that he was the same person ( not a spirit or ghost) that was put on Cross. From Galilee, where he last met his disciples and confidents, Jesus wet to some unknown (to ordinary Christians and Muslims) destination not to sky or heaven but to lost tribes of Israel in far off lands, where he died a natural death at some point in the history.
2. Ahmad was born of Muslim parents in Quadian a town in India, yet he claims in another sense, which is truly metaphoric/symbolic/spiritual, for himself to be Mary, Son of Mary (Ibne Marium), Jesus, Messiah etc as per Muhammad's Tradition and as per Quran. Ahmad is not a born again of any person in the past.
3. Ahmad whom henceforth I would refer as Promised Messiah, in the specific meanings as explained in the previous paragraphs, his advent from God as a Peaceful Religious Reformer is for Uniting All the Religions of the World peacefully into one entity with reason, dialogue, peaceful prayers, peacefully and nothing else but peacefully; he categorically abolished Jehad-war for supremacy of religious beliefs.
4. Promised Messiah has also informed that all Revealed Religions of the world are truthful in their origin as also their religious reformers are true Prophets/Messengers from God i.e. Moses, Krishna, Buddha, Zoroaster, Jesus (not Paul) and Muhammad etc (their common belief being Oneness of God) are all true Prophets/Messengers/Chosen’s of God.
5. We believe and use Books of all these Revealed Religions , containing true guidance from God starting from the time of Adam as and when God revealed his Word on any of his obedient Man as he chose under an elaborate system as mentioned in Quran, without ambiguities, contradictions and doubts whatsoever.
This is in short.
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Interesting. However, there is a part that seems to be ignored. When Jesus was pierced by the spear, what let out was the seperation of Blood (water and plasma). This is indicitive of a body that has expired (died). In otherwords, Jesus "swooned" unto death, physically, completely, and utterly. Since it is the body's natural inclination to heal itself, the fact that Jesus' wounds did not heal, is also indicitive of a dead body. Even after a day or two, a living body will show signs of healing...this was not the case as noted by witnesses, not even 39 days after Jesus left the grave.

I find irony in the fact that you seem incessent in dispelling the Divine nature of Jesus, in front of a Christian audience no less! And since you seem insistent on doing so, and this thread has taken a right angle turn that has nothing to do with Christ's divinity, I think it best to be placed in a more appropriate area.

Moved to the Abrahamic Main Forum.

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