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Old 03-17-2005, 12:30 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Whatever happened to Paul?

Dear Knight of the Rose

very true and this is what he said prior his physical death.

Matthew 10

Jesus Sends Out the Twelve

1 He called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority to drive out evil spirits and to heal every disease and sickness.

2 These are the names of the twelve apostles: first, Simon (who is called Peter) and his brother Andrew; James son of Zebedee, and his brother John; 3Philip and Bartholomew; Thomas and Matthew the tax collector; James son of Alphaeus, and Thaddaeus; 4Simon the Zealot and Judas Iscariot, who betrayed him.

5 These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions:

“Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans.

6 Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel.

7 As you go, preach this message: ‘The kingdom of heaven is near.’

8 Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely you have received, freely give.

9 Do not take along any gold or silver or copper in your belts; 10 take no bag for the journey, or extra tunic, or sandals or a staff; for the worker is worth his keep.

11 “Whatever town or village you enter, search for some worthy person there and stay at his house until you leave. 12 As you enter the home, give it your greeting. 13 If the home is deserving, let your peace rest on it; if it is not, let your peace return to you.

14 If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town.

15 I tell you the truth, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town.

16 I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves.

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Old 03-17-2005, 12:46 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Whatever happened to Paul?

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LMAO! - You forgot the part where he went to India, stole the Buddha's ideas, and then came back to teach them to Rome. 'Cause he was a hippy, and stuff. j/k
Right and then they all drop LSD a toke on the peace pipe.
Wow man. so cool man. praise the lord man look at the colors man (tease)
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Old 03-18-2005, 10:12 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: Whatever happened to Paul?

What I am saying about Paul in the gospels is that it is odd that they don't mention him. I'm not sure when he received his vision from jesus but his letters date to around 50ad. My point is that even though Jesus had been dead for 10-20 years by then the gospels hadn't been written yet.

Paul was a very well known figure when the first gospel was written and definitely would have been known when Luke, Matthew and John were written. I'm not trying to minimize Paul or the gospels, only asking myself a question. Why wasn't he mentioned or alluded to? It seems that it would have been appropriate to include him as a lead in to what transpired afterwords, ie; the spread of the gospel.

I am not saying Paul's message was different than Jesus' more so it was different from the apostles. They focused on different aspects of Jesus and who he was.
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Old 03-19-2005, 02:09 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: Whatever happened to Paul?

well it is kind of funny that the gospels end at the death and ascension of Jesus and Paul was not there in that part.
so there is no reason to include Paul.

Luke is a gospel, or at least I consider it one and he was not around it all either until later, however Luke did write a lot of Paul in the book of Acts.

it does not matter what i say about this because what you say and want to prove is just the opposite, of what you say you are trying to do.
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Old 03-19-2005, 04:34 AM   #20 (permalink)
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I agree that the gospels end at his ascension and therefore could leave Paul out. He did come later but Paul was known at the time Luke, Matthew and John were written. Luke is estimated to be written sometime in 59-63ad or maybe 70's or 80's. Matthew was around late 50's or 60's maybe even later.

The gospels could have told of Jesus' mission death and resurrection and then led into the mission of Paul since he had such an extensive role in the ministry.
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Old 03-19-2005, 06:07 AM   #21 (permalink)
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whatever you say. ditto on the pagan prophecy and rolling dice.
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