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Old 02-15-2005, 03:59 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: What is Love?

Thank you Q.. I never thought of it like that. Im one of those peacekeepers too.
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Old 02-15-2005, 11:03 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Re: What is Love?

'Love' is much over-rated it seems from all the quotations.

I would care little for love if I was starving and someone gave me food. They may or may not love me... Both are equally likely.

My point?

It is actions, not declarations of love or hate which count.

If some people feel a need to glorify 'love' with words let them do so... but let us also hope their actions mirror their declarations.
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Old 02-15-2005, 02:19 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Re: What is Love?

Dear Q

The trouble with emotional pain is that it helps to create disease and anger is the biggest predictor of heart disease.

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I'll call you the peace maker, and you can call me the peace keeper. ;
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But your quote sounds good. Blessings in abundance Q
and of course

Love beyond measure

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Old 02-24-2005, 10:11 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Re: What is Love?

What does Love mean?



A group of professional people posed this question to a group of 4 to 8 year-olds, "What does love mean?"



The answers they got were broader and deeper than anyone could have imagined. See what you think:



"When my grandmother got arthritis, she couldn't bend over and paint her toenails anymore. So my grandfather does it for her all the time, even when his hands got arthritis too. That's love."

Rebecca- age 8



“When someone loves you, the way they say your name is different. You just know that your name is safe in their mouth."

Billy - age 4



"Love is when a girl puts on perfume and a boy puts on shaving cologne and they go out and smell each other."

Karl - age 5



"Love is when you go out to eat and give somebody most of your French fries without making them give you any of theirs."

Chrissy -age 6



"Love is what makes you smile when you're tired."

Terri - age 4



"Love is when my mommy makes coffee for my daddy and she takes a sip before giving it to him, to make sure the taste is OK."

Danny - age 7



"Love is when you kiss all the time. Then when you get tired of kissing, you still want to be together and you talk more. My Mommy and Daddy are like that. They look gross when they kiss"

Emily - age 8



"Love is what's in the room with you at Christmas if you stop opening presents and listen."

Bobby - age 7 (Wow!)



"If you want to learn to love better, you should start with a friend who you hate,"

Nikka - age 6 (we need a few million more Nikka's on this planet)



"Love is when you tell a guy you like his shirt, then he wears it everyday."

Noelle - age 7



"Love is like a little old woman and a little old man who are still friends even after they know each other so well."

Tommy - age 6



"During my piano recital, I was on a stage and I was scared. I looked at all the people watching me and saw my daddy waving and smiling. He was the only one doing that. I wasn't scared anymore."

Cindy - age 8



"My mommy loves me more than anybody . You don't see anyone else kissing me to sleep at night."

Clare - age 6



"Love is when Mommy gives Daddy the best piece of chicken."

Elaine-age 5



"Love is when Mommy sees Daddy smelly and sweaty and still says he is handsomer than Robert Redford."

Chris - age 7



"Love is when your puppy licks your face even after you left him alone all day."

Mary Ann - age 4



"I know my older sister loves me because she gives me all her old clothes and has to go out and buy new ones."

Lauren - age 4



"When you love somebody, your eyelashes go up and down and little stars come out of you." (what an imagination)

Karen - age 7



"Love is when Mommy sees Daddy on the toilet and she doesn't think it's gross."

Mark - age 6



"You really shouldn't say 'I love you' unless you mean it. But if you mean it, you should say it a lot. People forget."

Jessica - age 8



And the final one -- Author and lecturer Leo Buscaglia once talked about a contest he was asked to judge. The purpose of the contest was to find the most caring child. The winner was a four year old child whose next door neighbor was an elderly gentleman who had recently lost his wife. Upon seeing the man cry, the little boy went into the old gentleman's yard, climbed onto his lap, and just sat there. When his Mother asked what he had said to the neighbor, the little boy said, "Nothing, I just helped him cry"



When there is nothing left but God, that is when you find out that God is all you need. Take 60 seconds and give this a shot!

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Old 02-25-2005, 12:37 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Re: What is Love?

out of the mouths of babes
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Old 02-26-2005, 02:22 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Thank you Q.. I never thought of it like that. Im one of those peacekeepers too.
As I suspect you know, it is a hard row to hoe. People like us die early. Sacred there will live a long time. She knows there must be a yin to the yang, in all things. We see eye to eye I think. We have our job, and she has hers...and it is all good. We want the same thing. We want to love, not be loved (though that is wonderful), we want to love others as best we can. That is God's behelden breath (will man finally love?...)

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Old 02-26-2005, 03:39 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Re: What is Love?

Two of the kids' comments keep jumping back in my mind.


“When someone loves you, the way they say your name is different. You just know that your name is safe in their mouth."

Billy - age 4
"Love is what's in the room with you at Christmas if you stop opening presents and listen."

Bobby - age 7


Your name is safe in the mouth of they who love you...

What is in the air at Christmastime...


What do children know that we don't? It is right there, if we could only figure it out. And how come they forget what they knew from the beginning?

questions, questions, and few answeres.


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Old 02-26-2005, 06:55 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Dear Q

Yep we are on the same side it is only negative perceptions that tell people otherwise.

Yin and yang but Grace is in the middle can humanity balance the scales of liberty?

Can we love ourselves and each other as much as GOD loves US?

GOD is still waiting patiently for us to realise this perfection.

My joke about GOD

I can just imagine GOD yawning......saying for goodness sake when are they going to get it.....I could not have created life more simple but yet they make is so complicated, children can be very hard work!

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Old 02-27-2005, 03:10 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Yep we are on the same side it is only negative perceptions that tell people otherwise.

Yin and yang but Grace is in the middle can humanity balance the scales of liberty?

Can we love ourselves and each other as much as GOD loves US?

GOD is still waiting patiently for us to realise this perfection.

My joke about GOD

I can just imagine GOD yawning......saying for goodness sake when are they going to get it.....I could not have created life more simple but yet they make is so complicated, children can be very hard work!

blessings in abundance

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He, he, he, he, Most of us average only three children (world wide), and we can't keep them in line. God's got 6 billion of us...

Do you think He really has any original hair left on His head?

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Old 02-27-2005, 09:44 AM   #40 (permalink)
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Re: What is Love?

The secret is equality and providing respectful discipline as soon as the old soul arrives.

A little story.

An old soul is born with the wisdom of many incarnations in a babies body, what does the wisdom encounter, inequality, spoken down to, told they know nothing, parents know better from their own and parents mistakes, domination and control. You should be seen and not heard, the baby learns from the power games and manipulation that it lives in.

The baby gets more and more frustrated until it rebels against its rulers, then the struggle begins. Sometimes the baby uses food as its only weapon, and the baby learns how to get its own back so that the soul is not completely trampled upon.

But yet there is a different way......

Treating all forms of life as our equal and to honour as sacred divine beings, to empower children by asking them to come up with solutions when parents have a problem, communicating from the heart of compassion so that we can connect our heart (not our minds) with theirs.

I have learnt that when children are given respect, honoured and loved beyond measure they also give this in return and they grow into confident compassionate and peaceful human beings. The way of the heart.

CHILDREN LEARN WHAT THEY LIVE

If a child lives with criticism he learns to condemn

If a child lives with hostility he learns to fight

If a child lives with ridicule he learns to be shy

If a child lives with shame he learns to feel guilty

If a child lives with tolerance he learns to be patient

If a child lives with encourgement he learns confidence

If a child lives with praise he learns to appreciate

If a child lives with fairness he learns justice

If a child lives with security he learns to have faith

If a child lives with approval he learns to like himself

If a child lives with acceptance and friendship he learns to find love in the world.

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Children and childrens rights are my passion.

Children have the right to be heard, the right to loved and the right to be treated as equals.

Being love

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Old 02-27-2005, 09:49 AM   #41 (permalink)
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The secret is equality and providing respectful discipline as soon as the old soul arrives.

A little story.

An old soul is born with the wisdom of many incarnations in a babies body, what does the wisdom encounter, inequality, spoken down to, told they know nothing, parents know better from their own and parents mistakes, domination and control. You should be seen and not heard, the baby learns from the power games and manipulation that it lives in.

The baby gets more and more frustrated until it rebels against its rulers, then the struggle begins. Sometimes the baby uses food as its only weapon, and the baby learns how to get its own back so that the soul is not completely trampled upon.

But yet there is a different way......

Treating all forms of life as our equal and to honour as sacred divine beings, to empower children by asking them to come up with solutions when parents have a problem, communicating from the heart of compassion so that we can connect our heart (not our minds) with theirs. Allowing ourselves to be vulnerable and share our strengths and our weaknesses and through this experience they learn about life and that it is OK to fall over and pick oneself up again. That there is no failure in our eyes all is just an experience.

I have learnt that when children are given respect, honoured and loved beyond measure they also give this in return and they grow into confident compassionate and peaceful human beings. The way of the heart.

CHILDREN LEARN WHAT THEY LIVE

If a child lives with criticism he learns to condemn

If a child lives with hostility he learns to fight

If a child lives with ridicule he learns to be shy

If a child lives with shame he learns to feel guilty

If a child lives with tolerance he learns to be patient

If a child lives with encourgement he learns confidence

If a child lives with praise he learns to appreciate

If a child lives with fairness he learns justice

If a child lives with security he learns to have faith

If a child lives with approval he learns to like himself

If a child lives with acceptance and friendship he learns to find love in the world.

Anon.

Children and childrens rights are my passion.

Children have the right to be heard, the right to be loved and the right to be treated as equals.

Being love

Kim xx
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Old 03-03-2005, 03:18 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Hmmm, interesting take, but not always true.

Some children who live with criticism learn to avoid condemning others.
Some children who live with hostility learn to be extra gentle with others.
Some children who live with ridicule learn to ignore it and rise above reproach.
Some children who live with shame learn to refuse to accept it.
Some children who live with tolerance learn to become complacent.
Some children who live with praise learn to hate flattery.
Some children who live with security learn to be oblivious to reality.
Acceptance and friendship do not help us find love, they help us, to-love.

Children have the right to be loved, Yes. They should for the most part be allowed to be heard. And they are equals as human beings, but are still subject to the authority of their adult care givers (and the adults have the ominus responsiblity of treating the child with utmost respect).

The heart of man is a multifaceted thing. It is by nature deceitful, and leacherous. It can also manifest great compassion and self sacrifice. But the latter attributes must be taught and nutured, wherein the former we are born with.

I have raised three of my own. I treated them the same way, and raised them with the best I had in me (and with no small assistance from God). Two are honorable young men serving their country (their choice), while the third has the potential for honor, and in fact displays it from time to time, but he is out for self mostly.

Perhaps he is a little slow and will catch on eventually, but since he is an adult now, well, it's his call.

My two cents.

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Old 03-04-2005, 01:46 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Nature, nurture and environment.....plus astrology of the soul children certainly do learn what they live in their environment and this will differ for each child on their own unqiue journey. We differ in as much as my experience is that all children are born loving, compassionate, giving and full of goodness.

I have just got home from spending an evening with parents and teachers and they have no conscious awareness of the negative tapes and power drama's they are implementing. There certainly is a great deal of work to do for adults to learn to communicate from the heart and to eradicate
domination of these sacred divine beings.

Love beyond measure

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Old 03-04-2005, 05:25 PM   #44 (permalink)
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I would just like to add onto Q's post.. I was brought up with alcoholism and because of that there was abuse.. I in turn do not drink.. ever.. and I do not abuse my children the way I was abused. my mother was a screamer.. I do not scream at my children. I do not wish to disparage my mother on here I love her very much and she went through a hard time because my father passed away...my point is that its not necessarily true that we form the personality of our children.
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Old 03-04-2005, 06:09 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Dear FF

Well yes I agree many are breaking the transgenerational life cycles, we have a choice at the end of the day to change what we have learnt or whether to take on board and change what we are shown. I think Jesus said in scripture that the deeds of parents effect 3 generations but it as been known to go down more ( I know one family where the sexual abuse as gone down six generations and only been broken in this current era, also all criminals that I have met have all been abused) and genetically it can shapeshift into something else e.g. abuse could shapeshift into fear of evil, the abuse that I experienced in childhood shifted into fear that created cancer and also a victim mentality. A lot of self healing had to be done to rectify the negative programmes so that I could benefit from the positive ones.

Dr Ursula Anderson (US) ex-advisor to WHO as published a lot of medical papers about transgenerational life cycles and as published various books, I find it a fascinating subject especially as it is mentioned in scripture.

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