What is Life?

[Bishadi]

If a living thing moves, reproduces and exists; what is life ever-lasting when death occurs?

[dauer]

I don't see a direct relationship between the two unless you mean to say that the cessation of the prior is the latter (lack of movement, reproduction and existence follows death), but because you use the phrase "life ever-lasting" I don't think that's the case. Could you explain what you mean to suggest?

edit: and come to think of it, lack of existence doesn't really follow death. The body still exists. It's just inanimate. Even as it decomposes and is eaten away at by worms and maggots it's really only being converted into different types of material.

[path_of_one]

Originally Posted by Bishadi

If a living thing moves, reproduces and exists; what is life ever-lasting when death occurs?

More of the same?

[Dondi]

Originally Posted by Bishadi

If a living thing moves, reproduces and exists; what is life ever-lasting when death occurs?

Several lines of thought here. Most religions teach on the immortality of the soul, a separate entity from the body. In the Abrahamic traditions, there is the promise of resurrection, the reuniting of the soul with the body in a renewed life. Then there are those who teach that the body and soul are dead, the person is in a 'soul sleep', but then both are raised up at the resurrection. Some other traditions teach the transmigration of the soul from one body to another body upon death, where one is reincarnated as another person. Still others believe that once we are dead, that's it, end of story.

I dunno if this is what you're asking here. Certainly any thought of an afterlife is taken by faith, for it sure looks rather permanent to be dead, eh?

[Bishadi]

I don't see a direct relationship between the two unless you mean to say that the cessation of the prior is the latter (lack of movement, reproduction and existence follows death),

Yes… that is part what was meant.

and come to think of it, lack of existence doesn't really follow death. The body still exists. It's just inanimate. Even as it decomposes and is eaten away at by worms and maggots it's really only being converted into different types of material.

Sounds like an honest assessment of what happens to the physical body.

The idea of the thread is to see the variations of ‘what is life?’ As it seems, the current idea of walking around and living is not the only reason why religions are so important; it is the after-life, which has so many in belief.

So the question is have most addressed this in a physical or literal sense; that after life?

Several lines of thought here. Most religions teach on the immortality of the soul, a separate entity from the body. In the Abrahamic traditions, there is the promise of resurrection, the reuniting of the soul with the body in a renewed life. Then there are those who teach that the body and soul are dead, the person is in a 'soul sleep', but then both are raised up at the resurrection. Some other traditions teach the transmigration of the soul from one body to another body upon death, where one is reincarnated as another person. Still others believe that once we are dead, that's it, end of story.

I dunno if this is what you're asking here. Certainly any thought of an afterlife is taken by faith, for it sure looks rather permanent to be dead, eh?

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[wil]

after life??

hmmmm that sounds like after....life.

not living after?

seems to be quite a bit of conjecture in this area.

and most proper to concern oneself in living this one.

[dauer]

I've got to agree with Wil. I'll know what happens after life once I'm dead. For now I'm in this world and it'd be better to concern myself with that.

[Bishadi]

Originally Posted by dauer

I've got to agree with Wil. I'll know what happens after life once I'm dead. For now I'm in this world and it'd be better to concern myself with that.

Makes sense to be responsible while you have the choice!

[seattlegal]

Perhaps another question that needs to be asked is this:
What is the difference between living and existing?

[Bishadi]

Originally Posted by seattlegal

Perhaps another question that needs to be asked is this:
What is the difference between living and existing?

You are alive with the ability to choose; a sort of heaven in itself as you can choose to impose or create a life to exist.

Jesus, Mohammed, Moses, Confucious, Thoth, Einstein and even God...etc..., exist by their contributions often described within the words of mankind.

A conscious life can do (by choice) impositions while alive that allow their existence life-everlasting.

Do you recognize the difference?

[dauer]

Bishadi,

responsible for what? It's all conjecture.

[Bishadi]

Originally Posted by dauer

Bishadi,

responsible for what? It's all conjecture.

Not really..... each moment you impose an action to existence (move, speak, write, do anything) be responsible to what imposition or affect you may have.

Where it seem open to opinion is that in a physical sense, most teachings, including the religions have a limited amount of material fact as to what rules to follow but in a purely physical description (science), then the action can be understood in black and white, with not much to debate;

good: supports life

bad: loss to the common

So then define any rule of sin and weigh them within this description.

[dauer]

Bishadi,

I don't see how what you've just said answers my assertion that what happens after we die is all conjecture.

[Bishadi]

Originally Posted by dauer

Bishadi,

I don't see how what you've just said answers my assertion that what happens after we die is all conjecture.

The initial post allowed me to believe that 'being responsible' was a conjecture; the question you had but:


what happens when you sleep.....?

Your body is in a state of 'you' having no conscious choice. Nothing being presented, is suggesting anything of conscious reasoning as you stand, to go with you after death.

Think about all them alzheimers patients.... live a full life and many cannot remember their own kids.

So that shares that all your physical memories or thoughts as you know now, are of your physical body.... not a spirit or soul as if separate.

One accident could remove everything your 'mind' knows.

[dauer]

Bishadi, again, I don't see how what you've just said answers my assertion that what happens after we die is all conjecture. If you're referring to effects on the physical body, see my first post in this thread. The post that you misunderstood was in response to this:

Originally Posted by dauer

I've got to agree with Wil. I'll know what happens after life once I'm dead. For now I'm in this world and it'd be better to concern myself with that.

So now I will restate. Responsible for what? A choice in what? What happens after we die is conjecture.