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02-24-2006, 11:05 PM
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What is enlightenment?
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Re: What do we know about God?
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Originally Posted by taijasi
What I assume is fairly non-conventional about it, is the very notion that the Sun is literally alive! That the Sun is in fact, GOD. Not "a god," but in fact the greatest that we can conceive of by such a word. That, anyway, is my belief. If I was pointing out that the outward, physical Sun veils an inner, spiritual Reality, I only mean it in an analogous fashion to the manner in which our physical body - is the temporary vessel for the Soul, or the Spirit within. I think the parallel is exact, except on a far higher turn of the spiral.
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Relieved to hear it was the old bugbear of scriptural mis-interpretation come to nip at us again.Tho it does some to me that we two are are engaged in a split of spiritual infinitives.
Are not the body and spirit one and the same thing? I don't know the answer to that, but prefer to live with the belief that they are inseprarable. Matter never dies - holy atoms merely reassemble. The interchange between body and spirit is very simple for me. I am ecstatic when I see God. He is ecstatic when I have a sensual orgasm. The material self is in love with spiritual Self and viseversa. Narcissis staring at the mirror of his own reflection.
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02-24-2006, 11:30 PM
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invictus
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Re: What do we know about God?
Wow. Hope this doesn't sound shallow ... but MagnetMan you just reminded me of the mirror trick. Haven't done it in awhile. Need a decent, large mirror - to hold up in front of the bathroom mirror. Wow!
Infinity ...
Kind of Zen: Everywhere we look around us, is infinity, yet we cannot put our finger on it (or it ceases to be!). Teilhard's Divine Milieu! 
andrew
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02-24-2006, 11:55 PM
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#153 (permalink)
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What is enlightenment?
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Re: What do we know about God?
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Originally Posted by taijasi
Wow. Hope this doesn't sound shallow ... but MagnetMan you just reminded me of the mirror trick. Haven't done it in awhile. Need a decent, large mirror - to hold up in front of the bathroom mirror. Wow!
Infinity ...
Kind of Zen: Everywhere we look around us, is infinity, yet we cannot put our finger on it (or it ceases to be!). Teilhard's Divine Milieu!
andrew
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I have large mirrors strategically placed all around the house, so that every one can check if they have a booger hanging out.
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02-25-2006, 12:26 AM
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What was the question?
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Re: What do we know about God?
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Originally Posted by taijasi
Wow. Hope this doesn't sound shallow ... but MagnetMan you just reminded me of the mirror trick. Haven't done it in awhile. Need a decent, large mirror - to hold up in front of the bathroom mirror. Wow!
Infinity ...
Kind of Zen: Everywhere we look around us, is infinity, yet we cannot put our finger on it (or it ceases to be!). Teilhard's Divine Milieu!
andrew
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Build a picture case 14 x 14 by 3 inches deep. Attach a mirror to the back inside of the case. Instead of glass or acrylic, install a two way mirror in the front of the picture case. Line the inside edge of the picture case with black felt and string Christmas lights around the inside edge of the case. Mount on the wall, and plug in the lights. Then look at the picture case straight on.
Infinity adnausem...
v/r
Q
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02-25-2006, 01:02 AM
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invictus
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Re: What do we know about God?
Thank you Q, and MagnetMan! MM, for the wonderful laugh you just shared with me! I've needed to laugh out loud like that for awhile!
And Q, for the idea! It seems familiar, like I've seen a picture of it, but not the effect. Will definitely research, and maybe build. In A Gadda Da Vida is playing in the background right now, so I'm feeling tripped out! Why not throw in some mirrors & lights to make it complete!
rofl ...
andrew
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02-25-2006, 03:42 AM
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What was the question?
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Re: What do we know about God?
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Originally Posted by taijasi
Thank you Q, and MagnetMan! MM, for the wonderful laugh you just shared with me! I've needed to laugh out loud like that for awhile!
And Q, for the idea! It seems familiar, like I've seen a picture of it, but not the effect. Will definitely research, and maybe build. In A Gadda Da Vida is playing in the background right now, so I'm feeling tripped out! Why not throw in some mirrors & lights to make it complete!
rofl ...
andrew
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Not at all Taij. It is called an infinity "box". It is a reflection of an illusion to reality...
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02-25-2006, 07:42 PM
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What is enlightenment?
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Re: What do we know about God?
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Originally Posted by Quahom1
Not at all Taij. It is called an infinity "box". It is a reflection of an illusion to reality...
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Are we talking Hollywood sets here? They use smoke too. The end result. when they are on target, makes even the gods smile.
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02-25-2006, 09:15 PM
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Executive Member
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Re: What do we know about God?
Taijasi, I have seen those images that you posted in meditation and prayer. Particularly the angels over australia and the planetary matrix. I didn't see Australia but I saw angelic type figures in space over the earth. What is the history behind these prints?
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02-26-2006, 07:00 AM
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invictus
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Re: What do we know about God?
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Originally Posted by didymus
Taijasi, I have seen those images that you posted in meditation and prayer. Particularly the angels over australia and the planetary matrix. I didn't see Australia but I saw angelic type figures in space over the earth. What is the history behind these prints?
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Didymus,
The first image is from a papyrus with Akenaten and the holy family praising the Aten. It may or not be a recent production, but would certainly be based on an original somewhere, if not the original itself.
The second image is based on clairvoyant observation, I think from Geoffrey Hodson. You can find information here, and the most extensive collection of images from his observations, here. The third image is also based on direct clairvoyance, that of Eskild Tjalve, info. here. Four more images from Hodson's observations are here, while similar, beautiful images can be found here (Deva of Ceremonial, above a church) and here (an especially good site, but be wary of the audio files).
The last two images are from the work of Arthur Douet, and are certainly clairvoyance of a sort, if not also direct.
It is my understanding that the vast hierarchies of angels recognized by Christians - and emphasized in Catholic teachings - fit under the main category of Devas ... or `shining ones,' in Sanskrit. They comprise a much more prolific evolution on Earth at the present time ... than Humanity, being the co-stewards of the planet. Esoterically, Humanity is said to number 60 billion units (obviously only 1/10th presently in incarnation) ... while the Devas, number 140 billion. The devas ... are the builders of form, and those portrayed in this art are all vastly ahead of the average human in spiritual development, though there are vast numbers of devas who stand approximately equal to us, as well as below us, more equivalent to animals ....
andrew
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02-27-2006, 03:52 AM
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Re: What do we know about God?
Hi
If I define God in a broad sense, that is as both a first cause and as the whole of existence, then every physical and mental experience I've ever had counts as knowledge of Him (or Her or It).
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02-28-2006, 09:33 PM
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What is enlightenment?
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Re: What do we know about God?
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Originally Posted by Jim M2
Hi
If I define God in a broad sense, that is as both a first cause and as the whole of existence, then every physical and mental experience I've ever had counts as knowledge of Him (or Her or It).
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Amen Brother.
You are He, learning to know Him ever more perfectly. He is We, seeing and enjoying himself grow up.
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03-01-2006, 11:35 AM
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Token Atheist
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Re: What do we know about God?
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Originally Posted by Jim M2
Hi
If I define God in a broad sense, that is as both a first cause and as the whole of existence, then every physical and mental experience I've ever had counts as knowledge of Him (or Her or It).
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Isn't that superfluous? Why say 'god' when we have so many pretty words that actually describe events, life, existence?
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03-01-2006, 07:56 PM
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What is enlightenment?
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Re: What do we know about God?
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Isn't that superfluous? Why say 'god' when we have so many pretty words that actually describe events, life, existence?
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"God" is simply another noun just like any other pretty word. It is the most common word we have of refering to The Supreme Creator. As a past atheist I can understand your umbrage. But you have to agree that all of the events, life and existence that we experience, stemmed from a single event. Be it Big Bang or Singularity or any other pretty word. Because Consciousness exists (which allows us the right to critique it) it is the unknowable purpose behind its existence that Believers, via Faith, revere and refere to as God.
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06-13-2006, 07:07 PM
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Tree Hugger
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Re: What do we know about God?
I personally don't believe in God but many do and that's cool. I do however believe in Good and I follow that. I seek out good loving and positive people, places and situations and that's what 'God' is for me - the loving impulse.
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06-14-2006, 12:00 AM
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Oannes
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Re: What do we know about God?
G-d IS Love !
flow.... 
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