What are the Differences between the Abrahamic Faiths?

[Terrence]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

Can't do that. There are still those out there that have not heard the Word of God.

Huh?

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Terrence

Huh?

You read me right. There are still those out there that haven't heard the Word of God...what did you think all 6 billion on earth have heard the word of God?

[Terrence]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

You read me right. There are still those out there that haven't heard the Word of God...what did you think all 6 billion on earth have heard the word of God?

Yeah, I read you right. But, I dont know why you would write that. Thats pretty obvious. What was the point you were trying to make?

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Terrence

Yeah, I read you right. But, I dont know why you would write that. Thats pretty obvious. What was the point you were trying to make?

You made an obtuse statement, and I point out an obtuse fact. Can't condemn those who don't know.

you stated:

I dont know about that. God only has a relationship with those who come to him His way, and thats through His Son, Jesus. You dont have Jesus, you dont have God.

judge not, I suppose is the order of the day.

[Terrence]

Where did I judge? I just said God's people are those who come to Him His way, through Christ.

Thats pretty obvious, right?

[Postmaster]

Originally Posted by Terrence

Terrance how many Christians struggle to keep the basic commandants found in the old testament before advancing towards the teachings of Jesus Christ?

No one but Jesus kept the Law. The Law is given to show man His need for a Savior.

Can't love be found in complete honesty towards your fellow human, a clear conscious of envy? Respect to your fellow humans and elderly.. How many Muslims, Christians and Jews fail to keep even the basic commandments of God.

We ought to love all people! Morevover, we ought to strive to hard to love them insomuch that we treat them better than ourselves. Still however, we dont lie to people. Instead, we tell them the raw truth, i.e., the Law wasnt given by God for men to keep because NO one can keep the law. In fact, no one (other than Jesus) has kept the law. The Bible teaches that the Law is given as a school master to lead us to Christ. It reveals man's true nature and shows man's need for Grace.

It seems to me that the Kind of love Christ was teaching people to have, is being twisted and used as some kind of tool to explain why a certain type of people are infidels, not of there kind, different and evil? Whereas this act would not have been approved by Christ the Mystic. The best you can do is set an example, thats how to follow Christ.

I best way to follow Christ is do what He said. Repent, deny self and follow Him.

Yeah some of your points are true but they still don't fully cover or over power what I'm trying to say.

[wil]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

but God is still present with man...all man. He never said "I will not be with man". He just said He can't look upon the sin of man.

Can you point out the scripture Q? I'm thinking G-d can't really see sin at all. G-d sees us the way we were made, perfect in G-d's eyes. As we've discussed before, we are all works in progress, who would think of condemning anything that is not complete?

[Postmaster]

God doesn't punish us for sin, sin eventually punishes us in the long term. The legacy someone leaves on earth is a reflection of what he has in the afterlife.

Yeah humans are still changing, nature changes and adapts and so do we, ideas change and so do we.. Something I'm not happy with but true! God is infinite, all we can do is align with him.

Terrance what do you think of a religion just before Christianity called Mithraism?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithrai...o_Christianity

[Terrence]

Originally Posted by Postmaster

God doesn't punish us for sin, sin eventually punishes us in the long term. The legacy someone leaves on earth is a reflection of what he has in the afterlife.

Yeah humans are still changing, nature changes and adapts and so do we, ideas change and so do we.. Something I'm not happy with but true! God is infinite, all we can do is align with him.

Terrance what do you think of a religion just before Christianity called Mithraism?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithrai...o_Christianity

Its been awhile since I heard someone talk about mithrasim. I think mitraism was a pagan relgion that has demoninc roots. My own conjucture on the issue is that since satan knew the messiah was coming, and knew the prophecies concerning his coming, he tried to make a false version of it in order to fool people.

[Postmaster]

Typical fundamentalist Christian response.

Did you know that many Rabbis at the time of Christ were calling him evil?

I'll give you a reasonable response, Mithraism influenced Christianity. Simple as that! if you don't see a theological point in that, then I suggest you consider progressive revelation. Love and honesty can be found in an idea.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/sinpars1.htm

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Terrence

Where did I judge? I just said God's people are those who come to Him His way, through Christ.

Thats pretty obvious, right?

No, it is not obvious. Not everyone knows the Christ (from the NT perspective). All Jesus said was no one gets to the Father, but through Him. He never said all would know Him. It wasn't a "do this or else". It was simply a statement of truth. No one gets to the Father but through Christ.

But I am certain many many people know God (particularly the OT people who's lessons guide us today).

The prerequisite that a Godly man be a Christian, is vain. God knows man's heart better than man.

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by wil

Can you point out the scripture Q? I'm thinking G-d can't really see sin at all. G-d sees us the way we were made, perfect in G-d's eyes. As we've discussed before, we are all works in progress, who would think of condemning anything that is not complete?

Yeah, I will find it for you. It might take a bit, so bear with...

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Postmaster

Typical fundamentalist Christian response.

That was a bit harsh and stereotypical...and not at all like you, normally...

[Terrence]

Originally Posted by Postmaster

Typical fundamentalist Christian response.

Did you know that many Rabbis at the time of Christ were calling him evil?

I'll give you a reasonable response, Mithraism influenced Christianity. Simple as that! if you don't see a theological point in that, then I suggest you consider progressive revelation. Love and honesty can be found in an idea.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/sinpars1.htm

Uh huh...I wasnt aware that there was another way to be a Christian. Hope you dont mind me asking but, who do you beleive Christ Jesus is?

[Terrence]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

No, it is not obvious. Not everyone knows the Christ (from the NT perspective). All Jesus said was no one gets to the Father, but through Him. He never said all would know Him. It wasn't a "do this or else". It was simply a statement of truth. No one gets to the Father but through Christ.

But I am certain many many people know God (particularly the OT people who's lessons guide us today).

The prerequisite that a Godly man be a Christian, is vain. God knows man's heart better than man.

Is this one of those "Christian" forums that use conjecture and spurious teachings to understand what God has written in Scripture? Hey listen, the Bible is obvious about God and who He knows. God, from the foundation of the world knows His. Wether they have come to Him or not yet isnt the question. Those whom God foreknew will come because they were called. Thsoe who are called are justified and those who are justified are glorified. God knows them...they're His. Jesus knows His sheep. His Sheep knows Jesus and they will hear His voice and in due time come. Those outside of Christ (who is the ONLY way to God), do not know God. They know of God (the reality of God is made plain in creation and in the conscience) but they dont know Him. Also, This I am not saying that God does not know them (those outside of Christ). He does, in the sense that He knows ALL. But, He does not know them as His own...that is to say, as His children and those who He will have an intimate relationship with.

On a side note. There is no such thing as a godly man; especially outside of Christ. We are all desperetely wicked sinners from birth and then molded by sin. Sin causes our wills and desires to be in direction oppossition from God. We hate God from brith. None has kept his laws. None has put Him first. None seek Him. None want Him. But, because we know He Is, we all try to appease Him. Many create a god in there own image and worship that god as if it is God, but its not, its idolotry and an offense of infinite proportion against God. The Cross of Christ is evidence of how depraved mankind is. God in His amazing grace saves people like us. None of us deserve anything good from God!