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Old 04-22-2008, 01:12 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I think my fingernail still has an identity yes?
Of course . At least as a construct of mind.

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Old 04-22-2008, 04:54 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Oxygen (65.0%)
Carbon (18.5%)
Hydogen (9.5%)
Nitrogen (3.2%)
Calcium (1.5%)
Phosphorus (1.0%)
Potassium (0.4%)
Sulfur (0.3%)
Sodium (0.2%
Chlorine (0.2%)
Magnesium (0.1%)
Iodine (0.1%)
Iron (0.1%)
Chromium (trace)
Cobalt (trace)
Copper (trace)
Fluorine (trace)
Manganese (trace)
Molybdenum (trace)
Selenium (trace)
Tin (trace)
Vanadium (trace)
Zinc (trace)
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You're worth about $4.50 assuming your skin is worth about the same as cowhide.

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Old 04-22-2008, 05:51 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Oxygen (65.0%)
Carbon (18.5%)
Hydogen (9.5%)
Nitrogen (3.2%)
Calcium (1.5%)
Phosphorus (1.0%)
Potassium (0.4%)
Sulfur (0.3%)
Sodium (0.2%
Chlorine (0.2%)
Magnesium (0.1%)
Iodine (0.1%)
Iron (0.1%)
Chromium (trace)
Cobalt (trace)
Copper (trace)
Fluorine (trace)
Manganese (trace)
Molybdenum (trace)
Selenium (trace)
Tin (trace)
Vanadium (trace)
Zinc (trace)
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Now that is literal; chemically represented.

Then what combines them? Each atom and please if any wish to remain complacent then we each can prove that 'electrical' representations are incorrect. As simply to realize that if all our interactions were of electrical impulses then an MRI would kill every person entering the magnet.

So what bring each and every atom to interact?

Only one answer!
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As simply to realize that if all our interactions were of electrical impulses then an MRI would kill every person entering the magnet.
How so? Magnetic fields and radio waves only target the protons of atoms to align them briefly. There is no reason for that to interrupt electrical activity in the body. There is no evidence that I ever came across that even comes close to suggesting that internal communication in the body is anything but electro-chemical.

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Ok lets back up, forget thought then. What physically am I?
Whatever you have moved. What have you moved?
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Old 04-23-2008, 05:19 PM   #21 (permalink)
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How so? Magnetic fields and radio waves only target the protons of atoms to align them briefly. There is no reason for that to interrupt electrical activity in the body. There is no evidence that I ever came across that even comes close to suggesting that internal communication in the body is anything but electro-chemical.

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Come on now, be serious. Most every electron used in most every circuit world wide is generated by simply moving a coil within a magnet.

In basic science class, a held magnet moving over a coil produces a potential.

In fact, they have magnets that cause levatation to a 'frog'.....

and if you so much as bring a watch or cell phone in any proximity to them 'enormous' magnets (MRI) you have no memory or usage let alone even be able to hold the (watch/phone) without it being ripped from your hand.

So if we are all just binary units (electrical and/or gates) , I could be the mad murderer with a stupid magnet. Just place it along the spinal cord and you'd be dead.

Or how about that EEG, the brain and a bowl of jello share almost exact single recordings..

You don't have to believe me.... look for yourself and be honest.....



nothing being shared is to harm, but simply open your eyes .....

doubt is good as unless each can understand, then what good is knowledge, so do the digging and see for yourself
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Old 04-23-2008, 05:38 PM   #22 (permalink)
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There is no evidence that I ever came across that even comes close to suggesting that internal communication in the body is anything but electro-chemical.
I know……….. that is why what you are reading is so unique. Not a one on this earth knows the whole story just yet.

We each are evolving.

But… now you can see a much greater impact and change occurring all over the scientific community.

Look up entanglement and Hoping Hu (or in Russia); Gravity being shared as entangled energy…….

Look up Polaritonics: Energy in wave lengths, used to create a crystal structure that can return a memory in em. (this is how the memory of the human brain works) And in fact, there is a study where an electron microscope (within these last few months) that identified them fixed structures within glial of the neural network.

Look up Bose-Einstein Condensate; rubidium is capable of both ‘slowing’ as the term is.. ‘light’ which breaks all laws of current physics, as well stumbled on how them wavelengths entangle the system…. MIT and Colorado have good material on these….

What I inquired was how the BEC was made as they miss a huge item, ‘how energy goes from a cold to hot’ as to recognize how the BEC is isolated, again.. current physics will not conform…..

Or how about Casimir/ Van der vaals; look up the geiko’s little feet…. Note how the little critter can defy gravity by interacting with the surface of most anything…. Note his feet are micro tubules……. And does the community try and define the phenomena for the benefit of physics, no! They are using the funding to develop an adhesive…. But what they are seeing is a mathematical frame to reveal gravity as it truly is…

Please, I wish not to harm but to simply convey, and each line item posted is purely based on a collection of material as great as any could wish.

Not a single atom in all existence that combines without ‘light.’……………..
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Old 04-23-2008, 06:59 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Magnetic fields can alter the brain. You can put a person into an epileptic seizure and truly fry their neurons with a pulsed magnetic field. It requires a time-varying magnetic field to induce the currents, in the presence of a magnetic field. A static magnetic field does not do it. I'm not fully familiar with the pulse of an MRI but it is obviously not strong enough, or not at the right frequencies, or not of a significant length of time to cause noticeable changes. MRI is not a passive method of investigation... it is active. The frequencies of the resonance of an electron for MRI are much, much higher than normal thought patterns. The neurons in the brain are fired in the low Hertz.

NMRI (nuclear MRI) makes use of the nuclear resonances.
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Old 04-23-2008, 07:30 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Magnetic fields can alter the brain. You can put a person into an epileptic seizure and truly fry their neurons with a pulsed magnetic field. It requires a time-varying magnetic field to induce the currents, in the presence of a magnetic field. A static magnetic field does not do it. I'm not fully familiar with the pulse of an MRI but it is obviously not strong enough, or not at the right frequencies, or not of a significant length of time to cause noticeable changes. MRI is not a passive method of investigation... it is active. The frequencies of the resonance of an electron for MRI are much, much higher than normal thought patterns. The neurons in the brain are fired in the low Hertz.

NMRI (nuclear MRI) makes use of the nuclear resonances.
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To understand how MRI works, let's start by focusing on the "magnetic" in MRI. The biggest and most important component in an MRI system is the magnet. The magnet in an MRI system is rated using a unit of measure known as a tesla. Another unit of measure commonly used with magnets is the gauss (1 tesla = 10,000 gauss). The magnets in use today in MRI are in the 0.5-tesla to 2.0-tesla range, or 5,000 to 20,000 gauss. Magnetic fields greater than 2 tesla have not been approved for use in medical imaging, though much more powerful magnets -- up to 60 tesla -- are used in research. Compared with the Earth's 0.5-gauss magnetic field, you can see how incredibly powerful these magnets are.
Numbers like that help provide an intellectual understanding of the magnetic strength, but everyday examples are also helpful. The MRI suite can be a very dangerous place if strict precautions are not observed. Metal objects can become dangerous projectiles if they are taken into the scan room. For example, paperclips, pens, keys, scissors, hemostats, stethoscopes and any other small objects can be pulled out of pockets and off the body without warning, at which point they fly toward the opening of the magnet (where the patient is placed) at very high speeds, posing a threat to everyone in the room. Credit cards, bank cards and anything else with magnetic encoding will be erased by most MRI systems.
The magnetic force exerted on an object increases exponentially as it nears the magnet. Imagine standing 15 feet (4.6 m) away from the magnet with a large pipe wrench in your hand. You might feel a slight pull. Take a couple of steps closer and that pull is much stronger. When you get to within 3 feet (1 meter) of the magnet, the wrench likely is pulled from your grasp. The more mass an object has, the more dangerous it can be -- the force with which it is attracted to the magnet is much stronger. Mop buckets, vacuum cleaners, IV poles, oxygen tanks, patient stretchers, heart monitors and countless other objects have all been pulled into the magnetic fields of MRI machines. The largest object I know of being pulled into a magnet is a fully loaded pallet jack (see below). Smaller objects can usually be pulled free of the magnet by hand. Large ones may have to be pulled away with a winch, or the magnetic field may even have to be shut down.
Sorry, but maybe read a bit more

Magnetic Therapy

And please, newspaper and magazine articles are often quite misleading.

What the point being made here is that structures combined for life are not electrochemically bound, nor are the interactions between living structures in an electrical form.

These are misconceptions of descriptions and cause...... just as any can make a change or affect on any electrical signal with a magnet, likewise, then every electrical signal of a living structure must be affected.

Case in point, life is misdescribed in today's sciences.
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Old 04-23-2008, 08:09 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Bishadi I am physically an engineer. If you take a copper or aluminum plate and place it near one of those magnets nothing will happen to it either. Yet if you pulse a magnetic field then you can launch a copper or aluminum plate with significant velocity and force to cause some serious damage. The human brain is no different. Prior to launching the tissue some serious currents and voltages can be magnetically induced against the neurons to cause mind alteration, induce a siezure, and even damage the neurons.
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Bishadi,
I was specifically referring to this statement which I found misleading and erroneous:
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As simply to realize that if all our interactions were of electrical impulses then an MRI would kill every person entering the magnet.
First off most reasonably read individuals know that much of the internal communication in the body is not just electrical but also chemical. And that high power fields may be dangerous but have to be of a particular type to cause damage. The static charge of a man wearing a nylon suit and sparking off his car can reach 25,000 volts. If that was a dc charge he'd be seriously dead... like I mean really seriously dead. So your statement there really does not say anything useful but implies a lot.

Several of the other topics you allude to I too find very absorbing, esp Bose-Binstein condensates.(pun intended). And I know that there are far more discoveries waiting to be made than all we have found to date. I'm not trying to " get on your case", just telling you that I see you wrote something that is wrong. I do it all the time.

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Bishadi I am physically an engineer.
Good for you. All that education and still having a tough time with reality.


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If you take a copper or aluminum plate and place it near one of those magnets nothing will happen to it either
Put a charge to it and then recheck your statement and not meaning an attraction but an affect to the current or signal within the copper, aluminum; any movement will affect the signals. Remember most all generators are simply copper coils moving in a magnet… So a whole bunch of happening does occur.


Not a one ever said, you would be attracted to the magnet, the pure point to observe is within a magnet that can almost hold a car off the ground. Your body is exchanging signals, and they are not chemical in the form of ionized mass, conveying signals. When your head tells your foot to move, and it is immediate, them ionized chemicals could not travel so. And the MRI point is, that no ‘electrical charge is doing it either’……. Within a living body.

So for a little reality simply understand a chemical reaction release a ‘light’ signal, and all along the axon are mylean sheath with all them glial, refract that signal like supporting mirrors (memories). (ever here the term muscle memory?) to cause reactions as when the single specific wave length reaches a threshold the muscles react.

Remember, electricity is on and off, there is no middle ground, that is why defibulators and tasers upon flesh simply snap the muscles into full force.

As well note the structure of nerve axon and the tubules, then note the gecko feet, or any or most every fiber optic signaling format.

In 1982 the first paper I ever wrote was PNC (Photon Neuron Conduction), so unless you are ‘engineered’ up to ground the neural network at the molecular level, I guess maybe you might not understand but please, test, doubt and ask all the questions you like, I will not mislead you. That paper was to assist with Alzheimer’s disease, and since the medical field was not communicating with the physics dept in 82’ at MIT, Cal Tech etc…. them folk had no idea what I was saying way back then.

The comment I received was, ‘a photon cannot be held in one place, it’s breaks the laws of physics’………… well since 86 they have been using rubidium to do that very thing, and if you observe BEC, you will find, they’ve been doing it for almost 20 years but does any of the ‘community’ care to address ‘life?’ No!

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As simply to realize that if all our interactions were of electrical impulses then an MRI would kill every person entering the magnet
It’s a fact!


Take any ‘electrical’ anything you want into an MRI magnet, and make it work…..

From a minute watch, to a calculator……… nothing electrically exchanging information will work.

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just telling you that I see you wrote something that is wrong. I do it all the time.
I rather enjoy thinkers, and if there was something I said or conveyed in error, please be the pen keeper.


It seems your ability to communicate is not as damaged as mine. My problem is, I feel everybody should know this stuff or at least the basics of how life actually works.

For example; ‘what am I?’ ………….. you would think each should know that before they drive a car.
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Remember, electricity is on and off, there is no middle ground, that is why defibulators and tasers upon flesh simply snap the muscles into full force.
False. There is a world full of capacitance, inductance, and time-variant interactions that you have probably seen but have yet to show an understanding of here. Consider: How many MRI magnets do you think it will take to prevent a light switch from turning a light on or off? What would be the effect on an AC circuit powering a light bulb in the presence of a 1,000 MRI magnets... or one magnet 1000 times as strong as an MRI magnet?

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It’s a fact!

Take any ‘electrical’ anything you want into an MRI magnet, and make it work…..

From a minute watch, to a calculator……… nothing electrically exchanging information will work.
Not true. Here are some more questions for you to consider: What is the Earth's magnetic field and why do all things electrical and electronic here work in it? How many MRI magnets will it take to prevent a coaxial cable from delivering a cable TV signal? How many MRI magnets will it take to prevent communication across a cat-5 ethernet cable? They can transmit their signals in the presence of magnetic fields 1000 times that of an MRI magnet.

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For example; ‘what am I?’ ………….. you would think each should know that before they drive a car.
Alternatively: I would think a person would have a grasp of basic linear time variant physics before claiming that an MRI magnet will kill the car.
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Remember, electricity is on and off, there is no middle ground,
Which is correct.

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False. There is a world full of capacitance, inductance, and time-variant interactions that you have probably seen but have yet to show an understanding of here.
Please…… please…. Now you are going backwards. You suggest my knowledge ‘of’ is incorrect then even mention a capacitor which is exactly that, a discharge (on/off …. See farad) mechanism, but often used as a filter of 'f'. Still I am focused on conveying at the molecular level about facts. There error you point at is why angular momentum is fixed at angles of degree, current physics have no place for the ‘l’ or change to time based on that exact item I am suggesting; that electrical is on and off, and has no place (at the molecular level) to describe that increase based on wavelengths. There are 2 items that control the power of a system. ‘f’ ..frequency of the cycle with time, and ‘l’ the amplitude of the wavelength (shared among associated mass). In current (molecular) physics there is no account for ‘l’ in planck’s constant; they use fixed points as reflected in angular momentum. That is why ‘walking the planck’ is the incorrect basis of all physics and what ‘light as energy’ corrects my friend…. Planck retained
Newton’s 2nd law (thermodynamics) as a core requisite to establishing the constant, which is the cause of the error. There is no method to define the environment (entanglement) in all of current physics because of this.

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Consider: How many MRI magnets do you think it will take to prevent a light switch from turning a light on or off?
Please, do not use an analogy that has no bearing. How about, how many itty bitty magnets can I put on your CPU before is stops working? And in today’s teaching they suggest our brains retain memory by analog of 1’s and 0’s in a binary recording such as a CPU, and yet put your body in a magnet that can pull a wrench from your hand.


This was the purpose of the analogy I used. That to understand how the ‘community’ suggest life associates in an ionized mechanism within an electrically confined system with the physics of how electrical items work and then the physical reality behind the how they operate does not jive. I mean simply go through a metabolic process, the idea is that electrical or ionizations cause momentum and association but fail to realize that when these ‘chemical’ reactions occur, em (light) is released and in stead of addressing the wavelengths, they call it simply HEAT. All heat is is mass with energy (light) causing vibrations (resonance) and momentum.

And to stop any one of them releases a per se ‘photon.’

I am only sharing reality and how simple it is to observe. As for the math, well Einstein would have loved to hang out with the material we have now a days. As to realize what is being shared would enable you to realize, the picture all them contributors had been pursuing is now about to change physics and finish what our species has been waiting for; the reality that grounds all phenomenon; the single truth.

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Not true. Here are some more questions for you to consider: What is the Earth's magnetic field and why do all things electrical and electronic here work in it?
this is above already on this thread, and If you choose not to read, then I will not consider your comments
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The magnets in use today in MRI are in the 0.5-tesla to 2.0-tesla range, or 5,000 to 20,000 gauss. Magnetic fields greater than 2 tesla have not been approved for use in medical imaging, though much more powerful magnets -- up to 60 tesla -- are used in research. Compared with the Earth's 0.5-gauss magnetic field, you can see how incredibly powerful these magnets are


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How many MRI magnets will it take to prevent a coaxial cable from delivering a cable TV signal? How many MRI magnets will it take to prevent communication across a cat-5 ethernet cable? They can transmit their signals in the presence of magnetic fields 100 times that of an MRI magnet.


Take a little magnet and put is on your TV screen.

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Alternatively: I would think a person would have a grasp of basic linear time variant physics before claiming that an MRI magnet will kill the car.
the comment was ‘lift’ a car…..


sorry, nothing in the world is more rude than questioning another in such a tone as you did, when you really have no idea or comprehension as to what you are reading.

AS for my physics; I knew the math, the comprehension and exactly how to make a nuclear weapon before I was 17 years old; re-constituted the physics of energy and even how the brain works before I was old enough to vote…. And if I did not care, I could have simply published, chased the dollar or go work for Dow and be a big wig, but all this work is for one reason, simply to understand.

The biggest mistake Einstein ever did was publishing. (now we have big bombs)

That promise to learn over the course of my life simply to give something back as thanks for being alive is quite weird when recognizing history and if you know your theologies, then realize that big old ‘covenant’ thing this whole taco stand is looking for, is the promise for truth.

And still people who think they got it all figured out (complacent) often share that they don’t want the truth.

If anything shared is incorrect, then share your knowledge but if you use someone else’s material and do not or have not done the homework then please keep that in memory and ask ‘your’ questions; what you need to know to be squared up with reality. That community and them scientists you see on TV are not who I am committed too; don’t want that approval. It is the new generations! Our tomorrow that I care about as when them youngsters are learning, I intent that they never have a doubt about what is true ever again.

That chance you and I never had! All I did was make a promise; a choice to remain true to pursuing knowledge for the purpose of UNDERSTANDING!

I will not fib! I will not misrepresent! What you are reading is from the source and from someone who truly has done that homework.

Notice I have no needs of things or reason other than simply to share; to plant the seeds and allow the words to assist, as once each find what is correct within themselves, then each can live with the ability, equal to all mankind, of making good choices all by themselves, with comprehensible UNDERSTANDING, that is true to all existence that never could any ever take away!

What am I? …. ………..That is question every soul ever born has wanted to know!

In one sentence;

Light upon mass with the experience of predetermination (consciousness); combined to all existence; mass, energy and time!

Or simply; light is life!
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I see multiple issues here. The first which is relevant to this thread: as I see it any and all knowledge that I might possess ultimately originated from God... or quite simply, somewhere else. I am not going to rate myself by whatever I possess. Most of it came by the way of someone else... my family, teachers, friends and neighbors. It is the option of others to rate themselves by their possessions, or to also rate me by my possessions, but I consider it a mistake. I also consider that they are mistaken when they think I'm rude by offering them information of anything. If a person feels that it somehow harms their self rating then it is unfortunate that they have rated themselves by their possessions in the first place. So my response is very well... I possess nothing of my own. If anything I ever say is ever true then it did not originate from me. I found it in my mind like a gift that showed up on my doorstep from someone else, and all that I can do is be thankful that someone out there loves me. I am grateful for what I've received, but I am not deluded into thinking that I am what I have received. Who rates themselves by what they know?

The second biggest issue is similar to the first. When, what, where, why, and how is the transition? Transition is significant. It is where work is done, where energy is consumed. Physically it is a point of no return. Not that a person can not return to the same place in a similar cycle, but that a person is not able to return to the same time and make use of the same energy all over again.

The third issue is that a constant magnetic field does not impede or prevent an alternating current. It does not impede a transition. Most all communication and power transmission is alternating, like a wave travelling across the surface of water. Whereas an electron gun in a CRT TV, for example, is DC (direct current) like a river flowing down a hill in one direction. Both involve a transition but in different ways. A constant magnetic field is like the rotation of the earth, which can have an effect on the river flowing down a river. However it does not impede the waves travelling across the water. A constant magnetic field is also similar to the height of the tide, which does not impede the waves travelling across the water. Similarly an MRI magnet will not impede a person from using their brain in its vicinity. Many electronic and electrical circuits will work just fine in the presence of a large magnetic field.
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