Was Jesus perfect?

RevKelly · 11-21-2006, 12:11 AM

Something that's been on my mind lately is that a lot of people seem to think that Jesus was perfect. Perfect in what way? To me, if he was perfect, he would have been able to find a way to convince his Enemies that His way was the truth. Also, I read about Eastern Gurus laying on a bed of nails and having someone break something over their stomach with a sledgehammer and none of the nails penetrate their skin. I would think that someone that could change water to wine, bread to fish, calm storms, walk on water, and raise 3 people from the dead (not including Himself) would be able to stop someone from hammering nails into His hands and feet. If Eastern Monks can do it, why couldn't Jesus?

Now, don't get me wrong, I place Jesus on the same shelf as Einstein and Hawking and Sigmond Freud and other great minds of Humanity, but this just sets off my BS sense when I hear someone say He was perfect.

Peace,

Kelly

wil · 11-21-2006, 12:49 AM

Namaste Rev,

In dances wil wondering where the lines are exactly to the gardens...

Ok this is Abrahamic. In Islamic and Judaism I think they would say he was a man, a prophet, it was a time of prophets after all. In Christianity, the trinity after all, he is G-d, was born G-d, and made no mistakes, I think perfect in a perfect representation of G-d on earth....but regarding your comments of solving all the problems...there would be concise biblical, scriptural reasoning for him not to do that.

Now if we were over on the liberal Christianity board I would have a lot more to say. I'm interested in the moniker Rev, which band of Christians trained you to think this way and how do you keep your flock from going astray with such notions?

RevKelly · 11-21-2006, 12:53 AM

Oops, I posted in the wrong board. Anybody know how to switch it?

wil · 11-21-2006, 12:57 AM

Simply leave a note to be moved to wherever depending on where you'd like the discussion to go.

RevKelly · 11-21-2006, 01:41 AM

Could someone please move this to the Liberal Christianity board?

(Do I need to hit the Report Post button?)

wil · 11-21-2006, 01:43 AM

Now that I know where it is headed, I'd like to say YES he was perfect. As are you..and you...and you!

BlaznFattyz · 11-21-2006, 01:49 AM

he was perfect in that he was free from blemish (sin), therefore he was the perfect sacrifice from god for the salvation of our sins. he was perfect in that he spoke only perfect truth which was a direct mirror image of god.

RevKelly · 11-21-2006, 02:01 AM

Ok, that makes more sense, BlaznFattyz.

I WISH I was perfect.

Peace,

Kelly

Dor · 11-21-2006, 01:52 PM

Yes he was perfect in the sense that he was without sin.
Yes he could have changed alot of things but he knew what was going to happen and why it had to happen the way it did.

11-21-2006, 12:11 AM	#1 (permalink)
RevKelly Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 54	Was Jesus perfect? Something that's been on my mind lately is that a lot of people seem to think that Jesus was perfect. Perfect in what way? To me, if he was perfect, he would have been able to find a way to convince his Enemies that His way was the truth. Also, I read about Eastern Gurus laying on a bed of nails and having someone break something over their stomach with a sledgehammer and none of the nails penetrate their skin. I would think that someone that could change water to wine, bread to fish, calm storms, walk on water, and raise 3 people from the dead (not including Himself) would be able to stop someone from hammering nails into His hands and feet. If Eastern Monks can do it, why couldn't Jesus? Now, don't get me wrong, I place Jesus on the same shelf as Einstein and Hawking and Sigmond Freud and other great minds of Humanity, but this just sets off my BS sense when I hear someone say He was perfect. Peace, Kelly

11-21-2006, 12:49 AM	#2 (permalink)
wil UNeyeR1 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,618	Re: Was Jesus perfect? Namaste Rev, In dances wil wondering where the lines are exactly to the gardens... Ok this is Abrahamic. In Islamic and Judaism I think they would say he was a man, a prophet, it was a time of prophets after all. In Christianity, the trinity after all, he is G-d, was born G-d, and made no mistakes, I think perfect in a perfect representation of G-d on earth....but regarding your comments of solving all the problems...there would be concise biblical, scriptural reasoning for him not to do that. Now if we were over on the liberal Christianity board I would have a lot more to say. I'm interested in the moniker Rev, which band of Christians trained you to think this way and how do you keep your flock from going astray with such notions?

11-21-2006, 12:53 AM	#3 (permalink)
RevKelly Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 54	Re: Was Jesus perfect? Oops, I posted in the wrong board. Anybody know how to switch it?

11-21-2006, 12:57 AM	#4 (permalink)
wil UNeyeR1 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,618	Re: Was Jesus perfect? Simply leave a note to be moved to wherever depending on where you'd like the discussion to go.

11-21-2006, 01:41 AM	#5 (permalink)
RevKelly Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 54	Re: Was Jesus perfect? Could someone please move this to the Liberal Christianity board? (Do I need to hit the Report Post button?)

11-21-2006, 01:43 AM	#6 (permalink)
wil UNeyeR1 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,618	Re: Was Jesus perfect? Now that I know where it is headed, I'd like to say YES he was perfect. As are you..and you...and you!

11-21-2006, 01:49 AM	#7 (permalink)
BlaznFattyz Executive Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,386	Re: Was Jesus perfect? he was perfect in that he was free from blemish (sin), therefore he was the perfect sacrifice from god for the salvation of our sins. he was perfect in that he spoke only perfect truth which was a direct mirror image of god.

11-21-2006, 02:01 AM	#8 (permalink)
RevKelly Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 54	Re: Was Jesus perfect? Ok, that makes more sense, BlaznFattyz. I WISH I was perfect. Peace, Kelly

11-21-2006, 01:52 PM	#9 (permalink)
Dor Bible Thumper Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: little town called Dallas, Tx Posts: 1,115	Re: Was Jesus perfect? Yes he was perfect in the sense that he was without sin. Yes he could have changed alot of things but he knew what was going to happen and why it had to happen the way it did.

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