Understanding the Trinity - Page 3

didymus · 03-19-2005, 05:45 AM

Truthseeker, you are just fine in God's eyes. Seek and you shall find. God will not lead you astray. My experience with God is a God of mercy and forgiveness, a God who will not pull the rug out from under me. Never be afraid to explore your spirit and soul for the truth. If you are still you will hear the silent inner voice where God dwells.

Bandit · 03-19-2005, 08:07 AM

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Is Jesus God's new name now?

i am curious, why do you ask this and do you see something special/significant in that, the name of Jesus?

lunamoth · 03-19-2005, 03:58 PM

This is not original, but

1 x 1 x 1 =

peace,
lunamoth

Quahom1 · 03-19-2005, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lunamoth

This is not original, but

1 x 1 x 1 =

peace,
lunamoth

1(cubed) three dimensional form existing in a single plane, something with length, width and...depth, but still of a factor of ONE. If taken to infinity, the final answer must still be 1.

sorry, it's the engineer in me.

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lunamoth · 03-19-2005, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Quahom1

1(cubed) three dimensional form existing in a single plane, something with length, width and...depth, but still of a factor of ONE. If taken to infinity, the final answer must still be 1.

sorry, it's the engineer in me.

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Q

ummmm, how can something existing in a single plane have length, width and depth?

Quahom1 · 03-19-2005, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by lunamoth

ummmm, how can something existing in a single plane have length, width and depth?

Don't know!

How can three entities be in one God? Actually I used "plane" as a term for where we exist now (as dauer would say, "improper use of vernacular Q")

sorry

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lunamoth · 03-19-2005, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Quahom1

Don't know!

How can three entities be in one God?
Q

Somehow I knew you were going to say that.

peace,
lunamoth

btw, i think that was the dreaded 666 post for you Q

Quahom1 · 03-19-2005, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by lunamoth

Somehow I knew you were going to say that.

peace,
lunamoth

btw, i think that was the dreaded 666 post for you Q

The number of Man...(not the beast). Guilty as charged

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Faithfulservant · 03-23-2005, 08:38 PM

I posted this on another thread.. I would like to share it here as well.. I was listening to a wonderful speaker on my trip his name is Dr Mark Eastman and he was discussing the diety of Christ.. He pointed this out to me and in all my journies into the word I never caught it..

Mat 4:1 Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.

Mat 4:2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred.

Mat 4:3 And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.

Mat 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Mat 4:5 Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,

Mat 4:6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.

Mat 4:7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

Here we have Satan tempting Jesus.. What does Jesus say to Satan? Thou shall not tempt the Lord thy God.. He didnt say to him.. thou shall not test the Lord thy God as reference to Satans suggestion he throw himself from the temple.. He was finally admonishing Satan with the futility of tempting the Lord thy God.. Going along with the other scriptures of him saying that He and the Father are one.. That having seen Him the disciples have seen the Father..Him stating that He is the great I AM.. that He is the Alpha and the Omega. It is further confirmation that Jesus is wholly God and wholly Man himself claiming it being so.

Col 1:16-17 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him, And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

truthseeker · 03-24-2005, 07:21 PM

Hello Everyone,

Thanks to all for helping to further my understanding.

I was given a pamphlet by a good friend of mine called 'The Trinity' by Rose Publishing.

My understanding was that Christians believed that the Father, the Son, and the Spirit are just different titles for Jesus, or three different ways that God has revealed himself.

This pamphlet teaches that there is only one God, and this one God is in three Persons. The three Persons are God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Spirit.

The Persons are distinct: The Father is not the Son. The Son is not the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is not the Father. God is one absolutely perfect divine Being in three Persons. His Being is what God is, in relation to the universe he created. THe three are called Person because they relate to one another in personal ways.
Thus, when Christians talk about believing in one God in three Person (the Trinity), they do not mean: 1 God in 3 Gods, or 3 Persons in 1 Person, or 1 Person in 3 Gods. Rather, they mean: 1 God in 3 Persons.
(The Trinity, Rose Publishing, Inc. 1999)

Quahom1 · 03-25-2005, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by truthseeker

Hello Everyone,

Thanks to all for helping to further my understanding.

I was given a pamphlet by a good friend of mine called 'The Trinity' by Rose Publishing.

My understanding was that Christians believed that the Father, the Son, and the Spirit are just different titles for Jesus, or three different ways that God has revealed himself.

This pamphlet teaches that there is only one God, and this one God is in three Persons. The three Persons are God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Spirit.

The Persons are distinct: The Father is not the Son. The Son is not the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is not the Father. God is one absolutely perfect divine Being in three Persons. His Being is what God is, in relation to the universe he created. THe three are called Person because they relate to one another in personal ways.
Thus, when Christians talk about believing in one God in three Person (the Trinity), they do not mean: 1 God in 3 Gods, or 3 Persons in 1 Person, or 1 Person in 3 Gods. Rather, they mean: 1 God in 3 Persons.
(The Trinity, Rose Publishing, Inc. 1999)

Or how about three manifestations in one God? Jesus did remark that He was in the Father and the Father was in Him. He also said that He who sees Him saw the Father, and to get the the Father, one had to go through Him...

I think that is why the trinity is considered sucha mystery.

And why is it that Jesus and the Father were heard to speak, but never the Holy Spirit of God? Or Jesus and the Holy Spirit were seen but never God the Father? And lastly, why did Jesus state He had to leave in order for the Holy Spirit might come? Like I said, mystery.

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InLove · 04-23-2005, 02:41 AM

Hello again, Truthseeker, and thank you for the welcome. This is my first reply to a thread, so I hope I do things properly.

I also hope that this is not an overly-simplistic idea to write here, but have you ever heard the nature of the Trinity explained in comparison to H2O? Below freezing, it is ice; at boiling point, it is steam. Between these points, it is water.

So the Christian who talks about the Trinity is talking about God as Father, God as Son, and God as Holy Spirit--working in different capacities according to what God sees is appropriate and needed by His children.

Well, now I've gone and dipped more than my toes in the water (H20). Can't believe I started with a subject like The Trinity!

Quahom1 · 04-23-2005, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by InLove

Hello again, Truthseeker, and thank you for the welcome. This is my first reply to a thread, so I hope I do things properly.

I also hope that this is not an overly-simplistic idea to write here, but have you ever heard the nature of the Trinity explained in comparison to H2O? Below freezing, it is ice; at boiling point, it is steam. Between these points, it is water.

So the Christian who talks about the Trinity is talking about God as Father, God as Son, and God as Holy Spirit--working in different capacities according to what God sees is appropriate and needed by His children.

Well, now I've gone and dipped more than my toes in the water (H20). Can't believe I started with a subject like The Trinity!

Welcome to CR Inlove.

Water is good for an analogy for the Trinity. But there are others as well. Please consider them to be viable, and please enjoy yourself here. I'm certain we will enjoy your company and time with us.

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InLove · 04-23-2005, 04:47 AM

Thank you for the welcome, Q. Yes, I agree--there are many analogies that could be used to help. I look forward to learning and sharing much more. This is my first day, and Truthseeker was the first person who welcomed me here. I wanted very much to join in somewhere, and so I followed the postings and replied to my first greeting. I assure you, I come in peace and plan to visit many places here so I may learn and at times join in. I am in no hurry.

Thanks again,
InLove

Faithfulservant · 04-23-2005, 08:14 AM

Ive heard that example used before.. anyways its a beautiful analogy.. thank you InLove for reminding me of it.