Transcendence

[Bishadi]

A great thread as thinking and observance to responsibility is brewing.

Seems the questions and points hijacked below are quite old yet try a different approach.

1. Use life and you lose life. I suppose this makes sense in some way, but I don't see how it relates to the OP or anything that has been posted by others, for that matter.

Taking life for granted. To assume your period is yours to abuse; fill the pocket, impose with no responsibility. Not much good left when your term of choice is up. To ‘use’ life --- you ‘lose’ …… make sense?

1. Don't use life and it becomes obsolete. Are you saying that if someone doens't act, they waste their life? Okay. Again, though, I don't understand what you are addressing with this statement.

1. Many a monk in the hills would share a notion that if an ‘act is not for a ‘good’ purpose, then don’t act.’….. When the true affect is not known, walk softy. And in others some wish not to copulate or bring another life into suffering.

But maybe that fear or unknown reality behind life itself is missing. To combine and make a life is good, as then you continue physically. To choose not to associate for the collective good of shared experience, knowledge, “chopping wood’ can also set a tone to ‘become obsolete.’

Where do we think we are headed? After transcendence, what is life like? What's our goal here?

To support life; which in a literal sense, could be as simple as conveying knowledge. Each period grants the next comprehension. That final evolution collectively begets the beginning.

And what evidence have we been given that our goal is real and reachable?

Observe, learn and be honest with what knowledge you learn, and then ask yourself; does it make sense? With integrity and enough physical knowledge each are capable of making the exact same choices and yet retain an individuality.

Forget the obligation to anything but being honest with how much depth you put into learning and pursuing knowledge. Every answer any could want can be drilled down by maintaining a few key truths; knowledge evolves, everything is a part of the total, and every imposition we make is a reflection of our life.

To maintain these precepts, and never lie to yourself when applying each rule and each can transcend the (existing) complacent ideas of the perpetual ignorance. As then to achieve any goal or pursuit can be realized simply by choice.

Now just imagine being able to look into your child’s eyes and be able to assist their development with real knowledge; a foundation that will always remain pure. And then any pursuit from thereof will not be damaging or a regression.

Teach them what life is and how to transcend the complacency of not being capable. Let them know they can create life with the responsibility behind each choice.

[wil]

Originally Posted by Pathless

Nah, it's not warped, wil. I do understand where you are coming from and how such an attitude/perspective can lead to a certain kind of responsibility. I do see it as a problematic kind of responsibility, tied at root to that egoistic "I" that you would transcend--like how you said, "I am the carrot." That leads to some kind of ego-loop, it seems to me.

So illimunation, gaining knowledge, self improvement, enlightenment, perfection, are not things to strive for as they are ego based??

I'll just happily be warped.

[Pathless]

Originally Posted by wil

I'll just happily be warped.

Fk, wil, maybe we're both warped. The semantic games in this thread and the Selfishness one have turned my mind to rubber cement.

I'm going to go write a story or something that doesn't require this level of mental gymnastics.

[Bishadi]

The way of transcendence within the world has to do with expanding consciousness, too.

And to expand consciousness equally must come from knowledge and maybe guys like you writing.

such as in this context below

It's a holistic approach to being in the world: understanding that we are a vital part of a larger organism (Gaia, Earth, ecosystems, what-have-you). If we approach our role responsibly and correctly, we do our part to keep the whole organism healthy. If on the other hand, we are overly concerned with things not-of-this-word, whether they be spiritualites or fantasies of industrial limitlessness, we become preoccupied, distracted, and we neglect our role in keeping the whole organism healthy.

as for going mush ........ it appears to live within today's society and remain with pure intent... has created a very strange person

can others be affected?

and will good come from transcending the hurdles of complacency?