The Word......

[Sacredstar]

Dear All

I would really appreciate your feedback on this.

It is written that 'logo's actually means 'word' and 'reason'.

The word 'Nous' is mentioned by Jesus in the Gospel of Mary Magdalene also by Anaxagoras, it is said that this means 'mind' or 'reason'

So the link between the 'reason' again with the word!

Do you know if anyone has done any comparisons on these words, logo's and nous their definitions and deeper truths? How do they differ in intent if in fact they do?

Many thanks

Sacredstar

[Abogado del Diablo]

Read up on Neo-platonic Aesthetics. In particular, the philsophy of Plotinus. The relationship between the "Divine Mind" and the "Word" are the central theme of Plotinus' work.

[Abogado del Diablo]

Here's a good introduction to Platonic philosophy, Plotinus' and Philo's changes and the relationship between Nous, Logos and christian theology. It's E Washburn Hopkins' chapter on the Christian Trinity from his book "Origin and Evolution of Religion."

http://www.urantiabook.org/sources/hopkins_oer_xx.htm

I also recommend Jung's essays on the trinity and christian philosophy collected in "Psychology and Western Religion."

[Sacredstar]

Dear Abogado del Diablo

Thank you, I will take a look.

I love Jung but don't agree with all of his theories due to my own discoveries with healing consciousness multi-dimensionally.

Love beyond measure

Sacredstar

[ISFP]

hey Sacredstar-

there's a book by Viktor Frankl called "Man's Search for Meaning" in which he gives his own definitions of nous and logos from a philisophic and psychological point of view. he also gives other definitions including the Greek. the book itself is wonderful and definately worth a read for its own sake.

[Sacredstar]

Dear ISFP

Thank you I will check it out.

I enjoyed reading about Plotinus today we share much in common.

Love beyond measure

Sacredstar

[Sacredstar]

Dear ISFP

What an amazing guy, I will get the book as there is multiple interest.

Thanks again

Love beyond measure


Sacredstar

[lunamoth]

Originally Posted by Abogado del Diablo

Here's a good introduction to Platonic philosophy, Plotinus' and Philo's changes and the relationship between Nous, Logos and christian theology. It's E Washburn Hopkins' chapter on the Christian Trinity from his book "Origin and Evolution of Religion."

http://www.urantiabook.org/sources/hopkins_oer_xx.htm

I also recommend Jung's essays on the trinity and christian philosophy collected in "Psychology and Western Religion."

Thank you for the link to this essay--a good jumping off point.

However, what is The Urantia Book? Browsing the website (briefly, I admit), it looks a bit like Scientology.

[Sacredstar]

Dear Abogado

yes an interesting read I particularly liked the quote from Zwingli for it resonates with my heart.

"GOD is the infinite essence or Absolute Being; Nature is the power of GOD in action; and all being is one; for the being of his creatures is in and by him."

Love beyond measure

Sacredstar

[Abogado del Diablo]

Originally Posted by lunamoth

Thank you for the link to this essay--a good jumping off point.

However, what is The Urantia Book? Browsing the website (briefly, I admit), it looks a bit like Scientology.

The Urantia Book is some sort of Scientology propaganda thing. They misuse quotes from Hopkins (by taking them out of context) to support their never-ending "trinity" arguments with the more "traditional" christians. I don't endorse anything about Scientology or that book. It's just convenient that they happen to have reproduced an entire chapter of Hopkins' book "Origin and Evolution of Religion" online.

Hopkins was a Buddhist Christian who saw them as two lanes in the same road. Given what you've written on the forum so far, it is not surprising that Hopkins' work would resonate with you.

[lunamoth]

Originally Posted by Abogado del Diablo

The Urantia Book is some sort of Scientology propaganda thing. They misuse quotes from Hopkins (by taking them out of context) to support their never-ending "trinity" arguments with the more "traditional" christians. I don't endorse anything about Scientology or that book. It's just convenient that they happen to have reproduced an entire chapter of Hopkins' book "Origin and Evolution of Religion" online.

Hopkins was a Buddhist Christian who saw them as two lanes in the same road. Given what you've written on the forum so far, it is not surprising that Hopkins' work would resonate with you.

Thank you for the reply. I know you are careful about your references.

I am interested in these things, the deep source of what we believe, the evolution of religion and the ideas that describe our common experience. I'll have to read more of Hopkins (in all my spare time... you said you have two little ones, so you know. )

[Abogado del Diablo]

Here's the skinny on the Urantia Book. It's not a Scientology thing. It somehow ties in to Scientology, but I'm not sure how yet. More reasearch to do, I guess.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urantia

[lunamoth]

Originally Posted by Abogado del Diablo

Here's the skinny on the Urantia Book. It's not a Scientology thing. It somehow ties in to Scientology, but I'm not sure how yet. More reasearch to do, I guess.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urantia

My first reaction was/is that this is an elaborate, high-quality hoax. One of the essays from Bill Sadler, son of the most prominent member of the Forum even referred to how his father liked jokes. The somewhat disturbing term "Thought Adjuster" was what made me think of Scientology.

A hoax or intentional myth-making or revelation?

[Abogado del Diablo]

Originally Posted by lunamoth

My first reaction was/is that this is an elaborate, high-quality hoax. One of the essays from Bill Sadler, son of the most prominent member of the Forum even referred to how his father liked jokes. The somewhat disturbing term "Thought Adjuster" was what made me think of Scientology.

A hoax or intentional myth-making or revelation?

I was extremely confused when I wrote that there was a connection between Cof$ and Urantia. Not only is it not a Cof$ thing, it is the Jehovah's Witnesses that regularly mis-cite Hopkins in their battles with "trinitarians."

D'oh.

[Sacredstar]

Marsh asked me about the sword of division on another thread but could not remember which one so am putting this here due to being about words and speaking the truth.

For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Hebrews 4.12

Thus we read: "Out of his mouth came a sharp two-edge sword" (Revelation 1.16) and "he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth" (Isaiah 11.4).

Sacredstar