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Old 08-30-2006, 03:18 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Re: The Tabernacle

Thank you for your precious and kind words .... while the thread may be quiet for a while, I suspect it will not be that way for too long .... aloha nui, poh
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Old 08-30-2006, 09:22 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Hi juan and poh--Peace

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Thank you for your precious and kind words .... while the thread may be quiet for a while, I suspect it will not be that way for too long .... aloha nui, poh
I suspect you may be right. Please don't think that just because no one is posting means that no one is participating. Perhaps just quietly learning...

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Old 09-15-2006, 04:30 AM   #48 (permalink)
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aloha nui in-love, I meant to write back and say thank you for your kind words of support ....

In the book "Secrets of the Future Temple" by Rabbi Moshe Chaim Luzzatto (which was written in 1729 and just translated into English) he speaks of the third temple in depth and said that it will be different from the first and the second and he also says (and this is really important) "I will reveal a very great secret, so apply your intelligence resolutely in order to descend to the depths of the matter. Know that this future Temple is the one that Ezekiel the Prophet saw immediately after the destruction of the First Temple. You have already heard that the Temple above never ceased to exist even though the Temple below was destroyed. For the Temple in this world could only be built through the great power of the lights (the Sefirot) which radiated from level to level until they reached this world, producing the Temple. In the absence of this power the Temple could not remain in this world. But this did not mean that the Heavenly Temple had to be destroyed. It simply became darkened and did not shine as at first."

Two more very important statements are found in this book (in the overview) related to the third Temple starting with the question: "Does the Third Temple come down ready made and complete from Heaven, or do actual people have to build it?"

"According to Rashi, "The future Temple for which we are waiting will be revealed and come down from heaven fully built and complete, as it is written (Exodus 15:17): 'The Santuary, G-d, that Your hands established."

On the other hand, Rambam states that the main identifying sign of the Mashiach will be that he will physically build the Third Temple in its proper place (Hilchot Melachim 11:4).

Ramchal helps us understand how both opinions express different aspects of the process by which the Third Temple will come into this world..... a spiritual emanation of the Temple will come down into this world from the Upper World, and around it the physical reality of the Third Temple will be built."

In other words as "more people study and grasp the Temple idea, the nearer will they bring the day when humanity will come to its senses, cease its futile cycles of war and destruction, and join together with one accord to worship the One God in the Third Temple."

Isn't it ironic that this also answers the question I originally posed about the reference from the Song of Songs to "a well of living waters that stream from Lebanon" .... it is related to the flow of light or blessings that come from the rebuilding of the Third Temple (spiritually) .... and also seems to answer the question which comes first the Masiach or the Temple .... they arrive simultaneously .... and I am awe that they both sit right at the edge of our own consciousness just waiting for each of us to open the door ....

I'm also reading a book called "The Return of Quetzalcoatl" by Daniel Pinchbeck .... in it he speaks of September 11 and its impace on the level of the collective psyche which was measured in the Global Consciousness Project at Princeton University which is an ongoing experiement to measure psi as a worldwide phenomenon. "The Princeton project documented strong deviations from normal patterns of randomness which were registered on the morning of September 11,2001. Even more interesting is the following: Although perturbations in the pattern peaked several hours after the planes hit the World Trade Center, deviations from the norm began a few hours before the catastrophic events. " The project director noted "We cannot explain the presence of stark patterns in data that should be random, nor do we have any way of diving their ultimate meaning, yet there appears to be an important message here. When we ask why the disaster in New York and Washington and Pennsylvania should appear to be responsible for a strong signal in our world-wide network of instruments designed to generate random noise, there is no obvious answer. When we look carefully and discover that the (data) might reflect our shock and dismay even before our minds and hearts express it we confront a still deeper mystery."

If, as speculated by this project, that we may be witnessing the early phases of a self-organization of a global brain .... are we nearing the possibility that if we change our minds, we can change our world .... if we change our minds, do we begin the fulfilling of the prophecies and the return of the Mosiach as well as the return of the Third Temple (which has always been there) .... just some thought to share as we pass the date of September 11 and move closer to the celebration of Rosh Hashanah which has as part of its meaning a focus on the theme of birth after a long period of barrenness or the deliverance of Israel from exile .... and could be related to the rebirth of our own consciousness .... I grow more positive each day in my belief that our world is changing for the better and our children will be able to live in harmony and in balance .... he hawai'i au, poh
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Old 09-16-2006, 02:36 PM   #49 (permalink)
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aloha nui, pohaikawahine!

mahalo (sp?) for your wonderful thoughts on this subject. The way it is explained here gives me such hope. Not just for Israel, but for everyone everywhere.

I think we truly are seeing a global phenomenon, if we really look. I have been wanting to read Pinchbeck's book. Now I know why!

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