the scary thing about me

[17th Angel]

Futhermore......

If john takes the path of study.... He comes to god... This is good MW.
Jane took the path of love.... She found god..... This is good MW.
Corky, had a path.... faith... He found god, this, is good MW....
lil 17 let's say was inspired by something else.... If he found god. Isn't that good?

[wil]

Originally Posted by Muslimwoman

For me the difference is 'what is real?'. If I smoked drugs I may also suggest that I believe in fairies, elephants are flying around the room and free love is the way forward. However, once the drugs had worn off I would see that it was purely the drugs making me think this way.

After decades of research this is actually not found to be so. Major university studies have shown that focused, controlled psychedelic drug experimentation has very clearly lead folks on the a path similar to and or superseding conventional religious experiences.

Now I am in no way condoning street drug use or personal experimentation.
But in controlled lab environments, under a doctor's care hundreds of people have been issued exacting amounts of entheogenic substances and the almost unanimous end result is they come out not only realizing a oneness with all people, all the universe and the creator, but also have no need to repeat the session. This is a long last revelation experience, but the amount and environment are critical....hence the personal experimentation leads to varied results, like becoming a habitual user, addict or overdose.

Many have experienced similar in their drug experimentation, but the risks are great as those who have succeeded are exponentially few compared to those who have not. Anyone read Remember Be Here Now, by Ram Das?

[17th Angel]

Originally Posted by wil

they come out not only realizing a oneness with all people, all the universe and the creator, but also have no need to repeat the session.

I get that... Often.

[Muslimwoman]

Originally Posted by 17th Angel

Even if it isn't.... You begin to draw from that and want m more detail and crave information for this as you do while stoned lol... It is going to encourage the reading of X Holy book.... isn't it? Does that not bring knowledge? Things I have learnt while stoned... I can remember clear as light.

I have never taken drugs 17th so really cannot say what I would or not feel, think or remember. However if you remember the stuff you read when you are stoned then I shall get you the Quran and send it to you - some reading for when you are stoned.

Originally Posted by 17th Angel

lil 17 let's say was inspired by something else.... If he found god. Isn't that good?

If that feeling remains with you when the drugs wear off then yes, it is very good. We each find G-d in our way 17th and each have our path to walk, maybe yours is just a little more laid back than mine.

Originally Posted by wil

Many have experienced similar in their drug experimentation, but the risks are great as those who have succeeded are exponentially few compared to those who have not. Anyone read Remember Be Here Now, by Ram Das?

Great info thank you Wil, drugs is something I know nothing about (other than my husbands struggle to kick them, which alhamdolillah he has now done). One thing I do know is that the brains ability to function seems to lessen with sustained drug use. My husband used to have real problems just thinking straight but now his mind is clear and sharp, he is also fasting ramadan this year - without any nagging from anyone, all his own choice.

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by Muslimwoman

Hi PersonaNonGrata

Yes smoking dope is prohibited in Islam. It is the same as drinking alcohol, it changes how your mind works. Anything that can affect the mind is forbidden, as it takes your mind away from Allah and can lead you into sin (because you become more relaxed and less concerned about your modesty).

The scary thing about me ...... I am a Muslim Well that seems to scare everyone for some reason!!

I have never seen a more potent drug than religion

[17th Angel]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

I have never seen a more potent drug than religion

Religion a potent drug...? It's a potent excuse for mindless stupidity and violence More freaking damage is done than good, that is for sure. Drugs on the other hand... More good than bad is done.... *runs around in nothing but a tight little red mini skirt and yellow inflatible swimming wings* I love aciiiiiid! lol...

[greymare]

another photo, preferably of the above please.

[17th Angel]

Ok, I will do it... When I can find some swimming wings and a mini skirt... I swear. I can't tell how long it will take though lol...

[17th Angel]

::CAUTION::

Ladies you might get a bit hot under the collar....

Ok... here is me in my mini skirt and swim wings.... Just got out the shower....

[flowperson]

OHMYG-D...IT'S The AVATARMINATOR !!!

flow....

[17th Angel]

Seriously I think that suits me lol.... *orders tons of Creatine*

[Tao_Equus]

pmsl

[17th Angel]

lol

Kids... Don't do acid...

[greymare]

oh 17th, I can always rely on you to make me laugh out loud. (Im laughing with you, NOT at YOu.)

[17th Angel]

Laughing at me or with me is allowed.. Laughing is the spring of life.... So get your fill My aim is to get people to either laugh with me, if I can't do that I'll try me best to get them to laugh at me...... Which, looking at it isn't too hard