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Old 09-07-2006, 12:15 AM   #76 (permalink)
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But divorce is not logical. Working out the problems is...
Cheaper to keep her?
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Old 09-07-2006, 12:18 AM   #77 (permalink)
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Dear Col. Klink and Sgt. Schultz...

The script says that you are only to say...
" I hear nothink ! I see nothink ! I know nothink ! My General isss comimk for inspection tomorrow !"

Vat isss disss erzatz German schnitzel you are sayink in posts 52 & 53 ...?

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Oh, what we were saying is "Savoir faire, is everywhere"... we just stay on the sidelines mostly.
And that even we lowly mods can spur on a conversation if we choose!
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Old 09-07-2006, 12:20 AM   #78 (permalink)
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LMAO! Not quite sure exactly why, but LMAO, anyway...
I'm with you InLove, otherwise all this new math will give me a splitting headache...
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Old 09-07-2006, 12:27 AM   #79 (permalink)
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Hmmm, let me see if I got this straight...

In order to transcend logical fallacies, one must contemplate divorcing imaginary new math equations in ersatz German. While watching reruns of Hogan's Heroes. In the rush to be right...yes?
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Old 09-07-2006, 05:32 AM   #80 (permalink)
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Cheaper to keep her?
Well, coal under pressure can eventually become diamond...
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Old 09-07-2006, 05:38 AM   #81 (permalink)
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Hmmm, let me see if I got this straight...

In order to transcend logical fallacies, one must contemplate divorcing imaginary new math equations in ersatz German. While watching reruns of Hogan's Heroes. In the rush to be right...yes?
Hey, although the universe is full of surprises, we can work it out.
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Old 09-07-2006, 09:20 PM   #82 (permalink)
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There is faith in questioning a teacher. It is a lack of faith to imagine the heart of one.

Open rebuke is better than secret love. Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee. A wise son heareth his father's instruction: but a scorner heareth not rebuke. He that rebuketh a man afterwards shall find more favour than he that flattereth with the tongue. (plagiarized verses)

All logic, math, and science are symbolic. At best every equality is a partial truth requiring a limited and undefined scope, either with ignorance or by overlooking a detail. An equality with any truth has at least one symbol with an undefined or imprecisely defined boundary. In the imagination absolute equalities are easily made. In the observable physical world absolute equalities never exist. Thus every word is a truth. A 6-sigma liar speaks a truth with every word. So, if and when determinism is dead in your mind, then re-evalute what right and wrong mean. A question and a rebuke are far more valuable than any imagination, and that is not an equality.
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Old 09-08-2006, 10:31 AM   #83 (permalink)
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All logic, math, and science are symbolic. At best every equality is a partial truth requiring a limited and undefined scope, either with ignorance or by overlooking a detail. An equality with any truth has at least one symbol with an undefined or imprecisely defined boundary. In the imagination absolute equalities are easily made. In the observable physical world absolute equalities never exist. Thus every word is a truth. A 6-sigma liar speaks a truth with every word. So, if and when determinism is dead in your mind, then re-evalute what right and wrong mean. A question and a rebuke are far more valuable than any imagination, and that is not an equality.
The Uncertainty Principle, again?
  • What we observe is not nature itself, but nature exposed to our method of questioning.--Werner Heisenberg
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Old 09-09-2006, 02:36 AM   #84 (permalink)
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The Uncertainty Principle, again?
  • What we observe is not nature itself, but nature exposed to our method of questioning.--Werner Heisenberg
Didn't he prove that an atom can not be observed from two perspecives at the same time? Ergo, we can observe where it is, but not what it is doing, or we can observe what it is doing but not where it is, in relation to all other atoms...?
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Old 09-09-2006, 02:45 AM   #85 (permalink)
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All logic, math, and science are symbolic.
Symbolic in explaining actual initiations of those particular actions the logic and math are attempting to describe. If the formulae are true, then the actions will prove out the math and logic. If the formulae are false, the actions (or inert response) will prove false the math and logic.

I suppose the same could be said of vocal language, as well as gesturing...

What we don't know, is what the result will be until it is tested...

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Didn't he prove that an atom can not be observed from two perspecives at the same time? Ergo, we can observe where it is, but not what it is doing, or we can observe what it is doing but not where it is, in relation to all other atoms...?
It applies to subatomic particles. {It comments about how much energy it would take to "contain a particle in a box."}
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The position and momentum of a particle cannot be simultaneously measured with arbitrarily high precision. There is a minimum for the product of the uncertainties of these two measurements. There is likewise a minimum for the product of the uncertainties of the energy and time.
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It applies to subatomic particles. {It comments about how much energy it would take to "contain a particle in a box."}


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I do believe I said that...just in layman's terms?
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Interesting little website Seattle. I found it interesting that it did not mention quantum complimentarity. I believe that this is a feature of the wave/particlel duality issue, wherein as we observe a particle in space and time and thereby" fix" it in our reality this action also instantly affects the position of the "twin" of that particle wherever it might be in space and time, possibly in the house next door, light years away, or on the other side of the universe.

This may have something to do with the "matter-anti matter" thingy, or possibly the "handedness" orientations of the building blocks of matter. Very interesting and spooky stuff. Others call this the "local-non-local" nature of quantum physics. Very uncertain , but IMO, likely one of G-d's major tool sets. It's also the theoretical basis for teleportation theory ( yes it's really being done with single atoms these days) and food for such great stories as the Stargate movies and TV episodes.

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Ah, the Rush to be Right...wasn't this about oh, yeah..."Imrightnurrongian" religion thingy?
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Hi Q:

IMHO, theories of religion, spirituality, quantum physics, and cosmology are unified at some point in the universe, or outside of it. Call this G-d if you wish, but that's my thought on the matter. Think of G-d as an ultimate singularity. There is most certainly G-d because all of the component features of the universe intertwine and just seem to work so well together

It also has to do with the curious phenomenon that G-d seems to be immanent within us and also within all other features of the material universe that we are able to see and understand. I'm not saying this is "right" but this is a conclusion that I have been led to over the years. I am the "clay" and the "potter" made me into this "form of knowing" ...just paraphrasing something a wise person said elsewhere on this forum.

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