The Nephilim Race

[juantoo3]

Kindest Regards, Tai!

runnin' out the door ... but google up stuff like giant human femur and such. that rings a bell, and if you can weed through the junk, you will find the gems you're after. I'll try and say more a bit later, when I get a chance ...

Interesting... Did you look into the Dead Sea Scrolls you claimed were about the life of Jesus?

[taijasi]

Originally Posted by juantoo3

Kindest Regards, Tai!


Interesting... Did you look into the Dead Sea Scrolls you claimed were about the life of Jesus?

I did not do so as such - but I'd like to pursue it. I posted something over on Esoteric last night (I think), which goes into some depth about the reasons for my belief in a date of 107/105BCE for his birth. An article I quoted gives some background on the term `Nazarean'/`Nazarite,' which I found useful - and also talkes about the Essenes.

I have long considered it likely, if not intuitively obvious that there was a connection (Jesus as an Essene), and have been miffed by those who simply brought the hammer down and said, "no way, no connection, no how." The article I reference quotes Blavatsky, I think, in a clarification that Jesus had enough differences with the Essenes to go his on way, as a solo healer (Therapeute). This would seem to (at least potentially) reconcile two extreme viewpoints, in my book.

Frankly, when it comes to picking out gems from among the mine of information found within the Dead Sea Scrolls, I feel I need a little guidance, and assistance. I will dig, but my own current position has been two decades in the arriving - and I dunno if these things will occur as soon as I'd like them to! So throw me a frickin' bone (is that Austin? lol) if you find the pearls before I do ...

Namaskar,

taijasi

[seattlegal]

Originally Posted by juantoo3

Kindest Regards, Tai!


Do you have anything that shows these fossilized remains? Can you point to which facilities house them or display them?

Try this site, and click on the links in the navigation pane on the left for lots of interesting stuff...

[taijasi]

Originally Posted by seattlegal

Try this site, and click on the links in the navigation pane on the left for lots of interesting stuff...

Thanks, Seattlegal!

This is exactly what I've been looking for! Will bookmark and read ... (if I can tear myself away! lol)

taijasi

[juantoo3]

Kindest Regards, Seattlegal!

Thank you for trying.

Originally Posted by seattlegal

Try this site, and click on the links in the navigation pane on the left for lots of interesting stuff...

I looked through about a dozen or so pages from that site, anything related to Giants, and I did not see anything but innuendo. Is there a specific page there you are aware of that points to any fossilized giant skeletons, where they are housed, who has studied them and their peer reviewed conclusions?

After all, we are looking for scientific validation. Thanks.

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by juantoo3

Kindest Regards, Tai!


Do you have anything that shows these fossilized remains? Can you point to which facilities house them or display them?

I ran a search for Giant Skeletons and Photos of, and I found some pretty interesting things. A couple were "Urban Legend" leg pullers, but most had actual authenticated photos, some dating back to 1850. Many of these "giant" discoveries were right in the Americas.

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[juantoo3]

Kindest Regards, Q!

I ran a search for Giant Skeletons and Photos of, and I found some pretty interesting things. A couple were "Urban Legend" leg pullers, but most had actual authenticated photos, some dating back to 1850. Many of these "giant" discoveries were right in the Americas.

I did a little more looking today. Most of the stuff I found supporting "giants" was more of the conspiracy / innuendo variety of pseudo-scholarship. For example, I saw reference to the Burdick print in Glenrose Texas, which we have already discussed in another thread at length, and know to be a forgery.

I could have been all over the place if I wanted, so since I saw a common reference to a fellow named Cyrus Thomas as head of the Bureau of Ethnology and a report published in the late 1800's on the Mound Builders in the Mid-West, I focused in on that, trying to find the reference so many were alluding to. Supposedly there were a number of "giant" skeletons found buried together. After some looking around, the only time the search turned up the word "giant" in his publication had to do with the Mound Builders eating, among other things, giant turtle. I saw no reference to giant human beings, although as I was pressed for time I only skimmed a portion of the publication, but the word "giant" was highlighted, and I did not see it turn up again.

I am wondering if this publication is being "mis-quoted" and passed around by pseudo-scholars.

I spent a little time looking at the Glenn A. Black Laboratory of Archeology, supported by Indiana University, and again I saw nothing to note giant human skeletons within the purview of the Mound Builder sites they oversee.

I find the Mound Builders fascinating as a culture, but it is misleading to take something we know so little about to begin with and attach all sorts of imaginations to it to further whatever agendas.

Not to mention, proving a negative, or in this case that giants "do not" exist, is impossible due to the parameters of logic. So, again I adjure, would those who claim "scientific" proof of this please step forward with their proofs. I have an interest in this subject that goes way back, but even then what "evidences" I have are circumstantial and hearsay. I have yet to find any acknowledged evidence, so if there are photos in a reputable museum, would someone point me to them? Please.

[path_of_one]

Glanced at the website about the giants. My first thought is... pseudo-science. Second thought- the skulls from Peru are not a mystery. Many ancient civilizations strapped boards to their infants' heads to shape the skulls in various ways. This was considered beautiful- like getting cosmetic surgery. They were just normal people whose skulls were fantastically shaped as infants.

We have to remember that people can alter their looks in amazing ways.

If, in a thousand years, someone discovers pictures of:
The lizardman www.thelizardman.com
or
The tiger-man http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...news694/1.html

for example, I would hope that scientists would be intelligent and skeptical enough to realize these are normal human beings, not mutants or aliens or angel hybrids or somesuch.

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by juantoo3

Kindest Regards, Q!


I did a little more looking today. Most of the stuff I found supporting "giants" was more of the conspiracy / innuendo variety of pseudo-scholarship. For example, I saw reference to the Burdick print in Glenrose Texas, which we have already discussed in another thread at length, and know to be a forgery.

I could have been all over the place if I wanted, so since I saw a common reference to a fellow named Cyrus Thomas as head of the Bureau of Ethnology and a report published in the late 1800's on the Mound Builders in the Mid-West, I focused in on that, trying to find the reference so many were alluding to. Supposedly there were a number of "giant" skeletons found buried together. After some looking around, the only time the search turned up the word "giant" in his publication had to do with the Mound Builders eating, among other things, giant turtle. I saw no reference to giant human beings, although as I was pressed for time I only skimmed a portion of the publication, but the word "giant" was highlighted, and I did not see it turn up again.

I am wondering if this publication is being "mis-quoted" and passed around by pseudo-scholars.

I spent a little time looking at the Glenn A. Black Laboratory of Archeology, supported by Indiana University, and again I saw nothing to note giant human skeletons within the purview of the Mound Builder sites they oversee.

I find the Mound Builders fascinating as a culture, but it is misleading to take something we know so little about to begin with and attach all sorts of imaginations to it to further whatever agendas.

Not to mention, proving a negative, or in this case that giants "do not" exist, is impossible due to the parameters of logic. So, again I adjure, would those who claim "scientific" proof of this please step forward with their proofs. I have an interest in this subject that goes way back, but even then what "evidences" I have are circumstantial and hearsay. I have yet to find any acknowledged evidence, so if there are photos in a reputable museum, would someone point me to them? Please.

Well, here is some interesting things.

http://www.stevequayle.com/Giants/pics/giants.html

http://www.tracone.com/the_unexplain...tons/index.htm

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Q

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by path_of_one

Glanced at the website about the giants. My first thought is... pseudo-science. Second thought- the skulls from Peru are not a mystery. Many ancient civilizations strapped boards to their infants' heads to shape the skulls in various ways. This was considered beautiful- like getting cosmetic surgery. They were just normal people whose skulls were fantastically shaped as infants.

We have to remember that people can alter their looks in amazing ways.

If, in a thousand years, someone discovers pictures of:
The lizardman www.thelizardman.com
or
The tiger-man http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...news694/1.html

for example, I would hope that scientists would be intelligent and skeptical enough to realize these are normal human beings, not mutants or aliens or angel hybrids or somesuch.

Could also be Marfan disease...

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Q

[Tao_Equus]

To be honest after some 4 months offline I am suprised that any debate on this subject is not long exhausted. Anybody know where the thread on Leprechauns can be found?

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

To be honest after some 4 months offline I am suprised that any debate on this subject is not long exhausted. Anybody know where the thread on Leprechauns can be found?

Well Irelandforever.com might prove useful...

[path_of_one]

At least Leprechauns and fae are thought to be from some other plane of existence, and so we don't expect to find any material remains of their culture and bodies.

As for the giants- there are genetic conditions that result in giantism and dwarfism. I don't understand how it proves the existence of actual angel-human hybrids. Scientists understand the causes and types of giantism in people. Why is this something considered supernatural in any way? Extraordinary, yes. Supernatural, no. Consider that there are many human conditions that are odder than this- various conjoined twins, for example. I'm not really understanding how rare conditions in humans can be understood to be evidence of supernatural hybrids, especially in the face of modern science and medicine.

[taijasi]

Giantism and dwarfism as genetic conditioins, plus head-wrapping, foot-binding and such ... I would concur that none of this is good evidence (or evidence at all) for the Lemurian-Atlantean Giants.

Sorry, juantoo3, et al, my own evidence that the nephilim, gibborim, or grigori actually existed falls back, foremost, upon those portions of the Hebrew Old Testament. I know that's not good enough for many people, but it's good enough to get me started in my own inquiry ... and to stimulate my interest. Naturally, we are free to disregard such accounts, as including the dimensions of King whatever-his-name's bed as pure superstition, error and utter nonsense. You may do as you like, but I take it as valid testimony ...

I think I could easily supply the testimony of several credible sources who have both seen actual bones firsthand, and have seen direct accounts from various ancient writings as reputable or more so than the Hebrew Old Testament and which corroborate the accounts of the nephilim - as specimens of an earlier race of Humanity, not as "spacemen." I trust to these other accounts, and examples of eyewitness testimony, and they go a long ways to fairly well "sealing it" for me.

Time will tell, I do believe, that the authors of these various works, and those who have been fortunate enough to see the bones in a certain underground museum, were not either given to exaggeration, or interested in creating/perpetuating a superstition ...

In the meantime, if I find any 12-foot femurs in my back yeard, I will post about it here first, before I sell them to the British Museum for 17 million each ...

namaskar,

taijasi

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by path_of_one

At least Leprechauns and fae are thought to be from some other plane of existence, and so we don't expect to find any material remains of their culture and bodies.

As for the giants- there are genetic conditions that result in giantism and dwarfism. I don't understand how it proves the existence of actual angel-human hybrids. Scientists understand the causes and types of giantism in people. Why is this something considered supernatural in any way? Extraordinary, yes. Supernatural, no. Consider that there are many human conditions that are odder than this- various conjoined twins, for example. I'm not really understanding how rare conditions in humans can be understood to be evidence of supernatural hybrids, especially in the face of modern science and medicine.

There is irony in people now adays having a gene that allows for six fingers and six toes, as well as double rows of teeth within the jaw. That in and of itself is not much but an amnomoly...however, it is something written in the Bible as a "marker" for those born of Nephilim in the days of old.

Just a thought.

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