The label....

[greymare]

I must be the only female on the planet that absolutely hates clothes shopping. Because I have 3 boys I buy all the clothes from Lowes (its a mens discount fashion outlet). So I end up wearing Polo shirts and Board Shorts most of the time. Work clothes are different. Company logo etc. But Boardies and t Shirts and Sneakers for me. I have to buy a formal dress soon as my oldest is getting married in December (shock Horror) and Im really not looking forward to that. (the shopping that is not the wedding. ) I wont haggle when I shop. Even when I bought my house I said "thats a fair price, OK SOLD" . I know, I know, I could have saved money, but the less time I waste shopping the better. Thats just me, of course. Love theGrey

[17th Angel]

Originally Posted by Muslimwoman

Dangerous road to go down 17th and I would strongly advise against it.

But I will look the business

And all the cool kids will be all like;

He's a bad mother...
Shut yo mouth...
Just talking aboot 17th...
I can dig it...

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

Hey 17th!!

I have a couple of "stone island" labels I still got left over from when I was selling them a few years back. I can post em to you and you could buy a shirt from poundstretchers and sew it on!! They come with the label buttons so they look the business

I try never to buy anything with "made in China or Indonesia" but that is getting harder and harder. I do buy the odd designer item from a charity shop, but that's all. I am a typical Scot, a spendthrift old meanie

For real? lol.... How did you just get labels? Oh btw... Stone Island stuff is made in Italy

[Impqueen]

Labels? Yeah.... Oxfam is the one I most often buy Though I buy more of my clothes in proper shops now I'm an adult with a salary, rather than a student. Still, charity shops, car boot sales, markets and funky hippy shops are my main stomping ground. Though I did find a cool pair of bright purple trousers in Next last year...

For shoes I swear by Doc Martens. They last for years. And a size 3 actually fits me. In summer I swap them for flip flops. As for leather, I actively look for it in shoes as anything but leather or cloth is so sticky and yucky.

I don't understand the appeal of labels. Good quality is worth paying for, but a name? Why?

[17th Angel]

Size three? lmfao you being serious?

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by 17th Angel

For real? lol.... How did you just get labels? Oh btw... Stone Island stuff is made in Italy

I for a while had an associate that provided me with several of the designer labels clothing items. High quality fakes, indistinguishable from the genuine article. As I worked in a place with lots of stupid people (no offence) that were into being free advertising space selling em was easy. The reason I have a couple of labels left is I liked one of the jackets and a jumper but hate the stupid looking buttoned labels. So I took them off.

Impqueen, what hight are you 5'-5'2" ? Size 3 is dainty indeed!! Sure you are not Geisha binding them?

Tao

[17th Angel]

No offense taken... Every single one of us in one way or another is a stupid sucker for some form of something lol... Advertising gets us all, it's like death and taxes inevitable...

[Snoopy]

I must admit that I always check the label, to see if it needs hand washing.

s.

[17th Angel]

yea, someone kinda missed the point heh.

Snoopy, I'd of taken you to be a anti-label and all that... Right?

Then again thinking about it, Fashion I'd say was a younger "thing"..... And most of you, in the most polite way, are knockin on a bit ain't cha?

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by greymare

I must be the only female on the planet that absolutely hates clothes shopping.

Presumably you mean females in western consumer society? It's OK, I know females who have not been hypnotised by the marketing, the media, the peer group pressure...

Consumerism is the nearest thing to a universal common religion in the west, it's what everybody wants to do, needs to do, loves to do. People are throwing all these products and services into the void inside them to try to fill it up and to distract themselves from the emptiness of their lives. It's an impossible task though, based on a false premise. And sometimes, some people wake up to this fact.

s.

[17th Angel]

Originally Posted by Snoopy

Presumably you mean females in western consumer society? It's OK, I know females who have not been hypnotised by the marketing, the media, the peer group pressure...

Consumerism is the nearest thing to a universal common religion in the west, it's what everybody wants to do, needs to do, loves to do. People are throwing all these products and services into the void inside them to try to fill it up and to distract themselves from the emptiness of their lives. It's an impossible task though, based on a false premise. And sometimes, some people wake up to this fact.

s.

Why does it have to be pressure? Maybe, just maybe.... People do it because it makes them feel good and look good? This being the case who the hell are you, me, or anyone to judge them for that? who is to say they are brainwashed and have pressure? Like those who wear poor clothes, budget, second hand, charity whatever lol... People shouldn't look at them and judge them... If that's what your happy wearing, than isn't that ok?

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by 17th Angel

yea, someone kinda missed the point heh.

Yeah, hi 17, I think you know I know the point, but was making another point.

Snoopy, I'd of taken you to be a anti-label and all that... Right?

If you mean anti corporate anti capitalist globalisation with all that that entails, then yes of course. It’s part of something bigger than just the look of the jeans.

Then again thinking about it, Fashion I'd say was a younger "thing"..... And most of you, in the most polite way, are knockin on a bit ain't cha?

When I wasn’t “knockin on”, I wasn’t a fashion victim because it seemed trivial and irrelevant to me; the clothes I put on I chose because of things like the weather or the place I was going to (crazy, I know). I wasn’t about to start wasting unnecessary money to advertise companies products for them.

As I’ve “knocked on”, I’ve come to learn about all the abuses and stupidity that lies behind “brands”, even before I read No Logo, though that certainly put the icing on the cake. A lot of young people read No Logo (and similar) and it has opened their eyes to all the **** behind wearing these designer labels. In fact, I’m glad that the book seems a little dated now, as the book succeeded in raising the awareness of many of the new generation of young people.

People wearing T-shirts emblazoned with logos or words or phrases presumably think they are saying something about themselves to the world. They are saying something to me, but I don’t think they’d like to know what that is.

In the most polite way, it’s not an age thing, it’s an awareness thing.

s.

PS, I know you’re not into books 17; but this is what I’m referring to:

Amazon.co.uk: No Logo: Books: Naomi Klein

[17th Angel]

Originally Posted by Snoopy

A lot of young people read No Logo (and similar) and it has opened their eyes to all the **** behind wearing these designer labels.

Sorry that draws a blank... Opened their eyes to what behind designer clothing?

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by 17th Angel

Sorry that draws a blank... Opened their eyes to what behind designer clothing?

Choose any 4 letter expletive I suppose! For what the expletive refers to, you would perhaps be best advised to read the book, or at least the reviews...

s.

[17th Angel]

No I got that part lol.... I just meant like is there supposed to be a hidden conspiracy or something behind designers... Nevermind lol...

[greymare]

I used to have a favourite t shirt that had a picture of Captain James T Kirk on it and it said "Beam me up Scotty" I loved that shirt. Sorry, rambling on again. love the grey