The Jinn

[YO-ELEVEN-11]

Originally Posted by taijasi

I think I was preconditioned ... yes. More THC in the brain that probably should have been, but this was all that was supposed to be there. In retrospect, I believe now that there was also a bit of PCP present. That part wasn't intentional, and is one more reason not to rush in - where angels fear to tread.

The conditions, including altered awareness, were such that I was identitied with a prior incarnation ... or two, actually. Bah, over 30 days, I probably touched on one aspect or another of 7 previous lives ... which I remember. But the ONE which first put me in touch with the "Jinn," was that of a Persian woman. The most unpleasant portion of the experience went on for - easily several minutes at a time, but perhaps even hours ... and this over several days time.

Jinn, as I have come to understand them, are intelligent, to a point, being of the nature of elemental lives, or a lower order of Deva. Normally, theirs and humans' paths do not cross, or at least, I hadn't ever had this type of experience. This is a type of creature which enjoys what we would call tormenting ... though again, this is perfectly natural, as I understand it. It's like encountering a mountain lion or something. They may well become mean, and even attack. But to become superstitious, and say a polecat is "evil" ... is of course, silly.

As I think about it, I wonder if some folks, having had such an experience, might think they'd come face to face with Old Scratch himself! This wouldn't surprise me. But after my Jinn experience, or during this same 30 days, I saw and experienced things that made the Jinn seem pretty minor. It's kind of like the Mystical or religious experience, which many folks have, and then decide they saw/felt Jesus, or an angel, or whatever ... this is how things get interpreted. Sometimes, the correct interpretation doesn't present itself for many years, and even then it only dawns slowly. This is probably the case with the Jinn thing. I have yet to fully understand it. I did learn, however, what not to do!

taijasi

taijasi, If you dont' mind me askin, did it ever pick you up and drop you?
I had a friend who told me that female jinn love to float men in the air an drop them very hard to the ground. Did that happen to you?

[moseslmpg]

Originally Posted by arthra

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:B..._Sharrukin.jpg

Pretty attractive looking sculture.. No it isn't what I saw either.. but symbolically interesting anyway.

I looked up the name "Dur Shurrukin" and it's apparently a place name related the Assyrian Sargon mentioned in the Bible who conquered Samaria:

Dur-Sharrukin ("Fortress of Sargon", present day Khorsabad, was the Assyrian capital in the time of Sargon II of Assyria (coordinates: 36.509537134293° N 43.229315249165° E). Khorsabad is a village in northern Iraq, 15 km northeast of Mosul.

I also found a caption for the "blessing genie" above that goes like:

The relief above depicts a great winged genie who attends the king at a religious ceremony. He holds a single ritual object, a pail, which may have contained liquid used to purify the 'Sacred Tree' - Tree of Life. It is fund at the Brooklyn Museum - Winged Genie Iraq, Nimrud - Assyria - from Room H of the Northwest Palace Reign of Ashur-nasir-pal II, circa 883-859 B.C. Alabaster 91 inches high, (231.1 cm) Gift of Hagop Kevorkian.

Source:

http://www.crystalinks.com/genie.html

OK, well it may be called a genie now, but I still doubt it was supposed to be the same creature that a djinn is in Islam. Those things are no more djinni than they are angels. Ah, but it is inconsequential to the discussion at hand...

[taijasi]

Originally Posted by YO-ELEVEN-11

taijasi, If you dont' mind me askin, did it ever pick you up and drop you?
I had a friend who told me that female jinn love to float men in the air an drop them very hard to the ground. Did that happen to you?

Hmmm ... I don't recall this, but I wasn't in a good frame of mind. It was very scary, but I don't remember being picked up & dropped. If I was, it would have been in the subtle (astral) body, but this doesn't ring a bell. This was a male Jinn, inasmuch as I would be able to venture a guess.

andrew

[YO-ELEVEN-11]

Originally Posted by taijasi

Hmmm ... I don't recall this, but I wasn't in a good frame of mind. It was very scary, but I don't remember being picked up & dropped. If I was, it would have been in the subtle (astral) body, but this doesn't ring a bell. This was a male Jinn, inasmuch as I would be able to venture a guess.

andrew

Did it say anything to you?

[taijasi]

Originally Posted by YO-ELEVEN-11

Did it say anything to you?

Hmmm, memory too foggy these days, as it's been almost exactly 11 years now ... but I think so. I do not recall details, simply that I was terribly frightened, and I would think that anything communicated - in words or otherwise (likely as pure emotion or thought, not verbally) - would have fit this bill. I think I might have simply experienced threat & torment, though again, nothing that I hadn't asked for, and nothing that was not normal for a Jinn!!!

I'm way out on a limb describing this experience at all - sorry! It's just not something I have a good understanding of, even with a familiarity with the Deva (Angelic, and elemental) Kingdom. I will probably research it more some day, as I've been able to fit many of the other experiences from 11 years ago into context. I was told by a mummy, for example, that I was going to be imprisoned beneath a pyramid - entombed, as it were - for 1000 years. This makes much more sense to me, and I can explain, or attempt to decode this utterance, much more easily than the Jinn thing. But it would have pertained to a much earlier lifetime, and it (meaning Egyptian culture, religion and spirituality) is something I'm more familiar with, than Persian.

Perhaps a viewing of 1001 Arabian Nights is in order. I think the video is on my coffee table! A recent production, too (2000).

Namaskar,

andrew

[YO-ELEVEN-11]

I tell you what taijasi, when I first found out about the Jinn, the first thing I thought about was the show "I Dream of Genie" that I used to watch as a child. I really liked that show along with "The Twlight Zone".

Anyway, if you get the chance, see if you can find any episodes of that show, because "Major Nelson" had a lot of things happen to him. That may be a way to jog your memory a bit.

[taijasi]

Originally Posted by YO-ELEVEN-11

I tell you what taijasi, when I first found out about the Jinn, the first thing I thought about was the show "I Dream of Genie" that I used to watch as a child. I really liked that show along with "The Twlight Zone".

Anyway, if you get the chance, see if you can find any episodes of that show, because "Major Nelson" had a lot of things happen to him. That may be a way to jog your memory a bit.

Ok, YO, I will take a look. I remember the shows, but haven't seen one in a long time.


Meanwhile, I posted a few words on another thread that Thomas started about anecdotal stuff ... which ties right in with this one. Also, here is the definition of Jinn from the Encyclopedic Theosophical Glossary online:

Jinn, Jinni, Jinnee (Arabic) singular jinniy, plural jinn; also genii. In the Koran a class of beings, both male and female, between angels and human kind and represented as being created from smokeless fire, abounding particularly in desert places. Popularly jinn are regarded as being able to appear to mankind in the form of domestic animals or of human beings of gigantic size, the benevolent ones appearing in beautiful shape, the malevolent in horrible guise.

I have additional thoughts about the Jinn, but they are fairly well summed up in the notion of Aladdin's genie ... and the idea that in fact, the genie represents our own, subconscoius desire-nature (or "wish-life"). This is a variation on the notion of the Jinn as an entirely separate, elemental being. Both, I find, are correct.

taijasi