the islamic god, and the christian God are not the same, what do you think?

[Quahom1]

It seems to me that the term "Abrahamic faiths" kinds of settles the matter in two words.

We all believe in the God of Abraham. Our faiths' respective roots come from Abraham. Abraham is the patriarc of all three faiths.

[Pathless]

Originally Posted by bananabrain

pathless:without my G!D there would be no such thing as a concept of dancing. my G!D makes *atoms* dance.

Oh, agreed, bananabrain, that god makes atoms dance. I didn't mean the latter part of my post as a challenge to you. I was merely commenting that I appreciated your straight-up bluntness. Admirable stuff.

In retrospect, I should have broken that post up into two separate chunks: 1) "I love this: (your quote)"
and 2) facetious comments about fist fights and dance-offs between gods.

[Prober]

Originally Posted by Dondi

You cannot tell me that we all worship the same God if our perceptions of that same God is in conflict with the other views. Granted, we see through the glass darkly, but someone has to have darker shades on than others.

Here I agree. It is possible to worship any god, even one that does not exist. However, there actually exists only one G-d.

[clearamericanboy]

so if my God is the same God as the Jews and the Muslems, then how come they have different ways of going to heaven? because i know that the muslems belive Jesus was just a prophit, and the Jew say that he wasent the messiah becuase he didn't fufill what he was suposed to do, but then in christianity Jesus says that "I am the way the truth and the life, no one comes to the father exept thrue me" well then what is right,....... i firmly belive Christianity is the true way, ........................
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[clearamericanboy]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

It seems to me that the term "Abrahamic faiths" kinds of settles the matter in two words.

We all believe in the God of Abraham. Our faiths' respective roots come from Abraham. Abraham is the patriarc of all three faiths.

so you would think, but it dosent because thats whare it splits off, because as a christian i know that ways of the other religions do not agree with my Gods plan,

[wil]

Originally Posted by clearamericanboy

so if my God is the same God as the Jews and the Muslems, then how come they have different ways of going to heaven?

Originally Posted by wil

my son calls me dad, my mom calls me son, my sister- brother, my niece- uncle, my friend- friend. They all see me different, have differing relationships, have different perspectives, have different knowledge of what I can and do do....but it is all me.

Its all a matter of perspective. Odds are...you may not believe it at this moment...but odds are, had you, the exact you, been born and raised in Suadi Arabia...or born of Jewish parents...you'd think differently....I wonder why?

[clearamericanboy]

yeah but as a christian i dont see how muslems can belive their form of heaven when it is all about indulging in fleshly desires, as there form of heaven, paradise, they talk about there will be virgins to have there way with, and beable to indulge in food, well when i go to heaven, i am looking forward to being with my father in heaven, because as a christian i am considerd an heir to the throne, tho i will never rule the throne of heaven, because God is everlasting, the only reward i look forward too is being with God, and nothing else, expessially virgins, i don't even know why anyone could belive that if you were to belive in the ten commandments which all three religions should, that would be adultry to lust over women, let alone be pleasured by them in heaven, wich isent there not suposed to be sin in heaven, o yeah thats right, theres not...........

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by clearamericanboy

so you would think, but it dosent because thats whare it splits off, because as a christian i know that ways of the other religions do not agree with my Gods plan,

do you really? Before Christians existed, Israelites and those from the tribe of Judah existed. Their God is our God. (father God). Their God comes from the Torah and the Tanakh (their Bible is the Pentateuch, first five books of the Old Testament).

I'm not certain you even know your own religion. Not saying you don't know your own faith (not my place, or intent).

Your faith comes from the ways of the Jews, like it or not. oh, and welcome to CR.

v/r

Joshua

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by clearamericanboy

so if my God is the same God as the Jews and the Muslems, then how come they have different ways of going to heaven? because i know that the muslems belive Jesus was just a prophit, and the Jew say that he wasent the messiah becuase he didn't fufill what he was suposed to do, but then in christianity Jesus says that "I am the way the truth and the life, no one comes to the father exept thrue me" well then what is right,....... i firmly belive Christianity is the true way, ........................
..

That is called "faith".

[wil]

Originally Posted by clearamericanboy

yeah but as a christian i dont see how muslems can belive their form of heaven when it is all about indulging in fleshly desires,

The other view is that, all these things are just mentioned by Allah as a metaphor to give us an indication that Paradise will be a place of immense pleasure and peace, and the reality of it is like something we cannot even comprehend in the slightest.

Did you miss this part of the quote when you asked in the Islam column about heaven?

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by clearamericanboy

yeah but as a christian i dont see how muslems can belive their form of heaven when it is all about indulging in fleshly desires, as there form of heaven, paradise, they talk about there will be virgins to have there way with, and beable to indulge in food, well when i go to heaven, i am looking forward to being with my father in heaven, because as a christian i am considerd an heir to the throne, tho i will never rule the throne of heaven, because God is everlasting, the only reward i look forward too is being with God, and nothing else, expessially virgins, i don't even know why anyone could belive that if you were to belive in the ten commandments which all three religions should, that would be adultry to lust over women, let alone be pleasured by them in heaven, wich isent there not suposed to be sin in heaven, o yeah thats right, theres not...........

Have your READ the Qu'ran?

[clearamericanboy]

yeah but tho the jews claim that they are the same Jews as when Jesus was around, but they diden't accept Jesus soo there for i feel they might have been, .... led astray by there own ways, but i may be wrong, i really only have a minumul about of information about Jews, but my main foucus is really on muslem belifes, but Jesus clearly states that he is the only way to heaven, sooo if you dont belive Jesus is who he claims to be, well,

Jesus was 100% man, and 100% God, some may say that that dosent really make seince well then thats the point, you cant fathom it,

[clearamericanboy]

Originally Posted by wil

Did you miss this part of the quote when you asked in the Islam column about heaven?

well if it was a metaphore used by God, Allah, him self i dont think its true, because then God would be leading you to temptaiton wich is somthing that he does not do, wich is stated in the bible,

[clearamericanboy]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

Have your READ the Qu'ran?

what about it, you leave me on have you read the qu'ran? what does it say that proves what anything i said was wrong........ i have spoke with muslems about the subject and they dont say that they are heirs to the throne, they say they are his subjects kinda like slaves, but as a christian i am a child of God, and what i do for him is as what i would do for my worldly father, I have a personal relationship with God, I talk to him in prayor often thrue everyday life, and he guids me everywhare i go, and my muslem freinds i kno. are like what are you talking about? relaitonships?, soo my point exactly

[wil]

Originally Posted by clearamericanboy

well if it was a metaphore used by God, Allah, him self i dont think its true, because then God would be leading you to temptaiton wich is somthing that he does not do, wich is stated in the bible,

me thinks it actually says Jesus prays that G-d does not lead us into temptation....at least most translations are that way..