The Function Of Belief

[cyberpi]

Originally Posted by Paladin

Once again, QED. Simply amazing

So I am invited yet again to assume... by the void of your answers. No thank you... I decline that evil.

[China Cat Sunflower]

Originally Posted by cyberpi

A day is a book and you write one daily.

You want a more scientific method... very well how much does the dead horse weigh?

Since you are disgruntled by mere questions, shall I stop asking them?

Should I flog the horse that says otherwise?

By your words, are we equal?

If the aim of a question is to receive an answer, then I surely do agree.

Count them: One, two, three, four rhetorical questions out of six sentences. QED indeed.

You don't get it. Instead of putting out your own intellectual product, what you do is mess with other people's words. This may amuse you, but the rest of us find it irritating and disingenuous.

Chris

[cyberpi]

Originally Posted by China Cat Sunflower

Count them: One, two, three, four rhetorical questions out of six sentences. QED indeed.

You don't get it. Instead of putting out your own intellectual product, what you do is mess with other people's words. This may amuse you, but the rest of us find it irritating and disingenuous.

Chris

If they are rhetorical then what is their answer? Should I apologize for asking questions? Is it wrong to ask questions? Would you prefer that I not ask you questions?

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by cyberpi

So I am invited yet again to assume... by the void of your answers.

Seems to me that you take gold medal in that race, mate. Your other medal is that for the person most likely to disappear up his own jacksie.

Obviously meaningful dialogue is not your aim in coming to this forum. You just like to argue for the sake of arguing. Fair enough. Whatever sails your boat....
I am sorry that you failed to see I was trying to reach out to you. Perhaps I should have done so in PM but I never PM anybody so the idea did not occur to me till now. I tried because I genuinely like parts of your thinking. But I can only bend so far, not before snapping, but before I bend out of your reach. So you can carry on flogging a dead horse, this one is way out of reach of your rod.

Tao

[cyberpi]

Tao, you have no questions so I have no answers. Since you consider it trickery to ask you questions then I will play a trick and ask you no more questions.

Originally Posted by juantoo3

Quite the contrary, I think in my own personal participation I go to great lengths to accomodate others that hold views unlike my own.

Silas? Niranjan?

Originally Posted by juantoo3

I hate none of them. As long as they are not disruptive to the community as a whole, I have no quarrel with them.

I do have quarrel because you did hate at least two.

Originally Posted by juantoo3

Would you rather I act unlike myself?

Your claim on the other thread was that you were not being yourself, yet your claim here on this thread was that you were demonstrating yourself at the time. If I knew which was true then maybe I could answer the question.

Originally Posted by juantoo3

I had thought instead that perhaps you might enjoy a homecooked meal.

I identify that as an assumption. I prefer what I offered which was dinner out on me. Your choice of location and your family is invited too. I prefer, recommend, and hope that it is expensive. I will probably wear shorts and a t-shirt though... I do enjoy the Florida weather this time of year.

[juantoo3]

Originally Posted by cyberpi

Silas? Niranjan?

At the risk of repeating myself:

I prefer my role as participant 99% of the time. I don't relish the thought of having to moderate when things turn ugly, I get no thrill out of exercising authority, if that might be what you are hinting at. I have explained in the past several times, sufficiently that I really do not understand what the pet peeve is. Have I made any similar mistake (as you deem it) since? In fairness, has any situation presented itself that was in any respect similar?

Quite the contrary, I think in my own personal participation I go to great lengths to accomodate others that hold views unlike my own. I have had heated and even frustrating discussions with many people around here. Some have over time become friends, others merely tolerate my presence and some I'm sure would just as well that I disappear. I hate none of them. As long as they are not disruptive to the community as a whole, I have no quarrel with them.

That is my answer about Silas and Niranjan.

Originally Posted by cyberpi

I do have quarrel because you did hate at least two.

No. I disapproved of *what they were doing.* There is a difference between disapproval and hatred, dispite the common propaganda.

Originally Posted by cyberpi

Your claim on the other thread was that you were not being yourself, yet your claim here on this thread was that you were demonstrating yourself at the time. If I knew which was true then maybe I could answer the question.

Both are true. I will leave it to you to sort out, I have explained already.

Originally Posted by cyberpi

I identify that as an assumption. I prefer what I offered which was dinner out on me. Your choice of location and your family is invited too. I prefer, recommend, and hope that it is expensive. I will probably wear shorts and a t-shirt though... I do enjoy the Florida weather this time of year.

I am willing to accomodate your preferences, but the presumption that I wish to abuse your generousity is just not how I reason. I am looking forward to tomorrow evening.

[cyberpi]

Originally Posted by juantoo3

No. I disapproved of *what they were doing.* There is a difference between disapproval and hatred, dispite the common propaganda.

Doing, or saying? On a forum most people can not do anything but speak... to add words. I understand that you disapproved of what they were saying. I also disapproved with some of what each were saying too. Who wouldn't disapprove of what you were saying to them? Please go back and read those threads. Read what you said to them. When questioned though, you claimed to be acting out of character. Why couldn't anyone else use the same excuse? The people who did something with their disapproval though, is whoever banned them from speaking here. While I submit that a community is much more than just communication, the true interruption to any alleged community comes from that act of banning. Words come and go, but banning someone against their will for sharing words is a true disruption.

Notice on this very thread, more than a few disapprove of what I say and the way I say it. Where are the true speech police and behavior police?

Originally Posted by juantoo3

Both are true. I will leave it to you to sort out, I have explained already.

This claimed business of acting out of character, or acting another role, looks dishonest to me.

Originally Posted by juantoo3

I am willing to accomodate your preferences, but the presumption that I wish to abuse your generousity is just not how I reason. I am looking forward to tomorrow evening.

By your former words, it sounds like I could be abused if you spot what you claim to be arrogance. It is impossible though to abuse what I agree to or ask for. Key aspect of faith.

Law is a matter of ...

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by cyberpi

Notice on this very thread, more than a few disapprove of what I say and the way I say it. Where are the true speech police and behavior police?

True? I apologise if you have the impression I wish to 'police' or by any other method limit your freedom of expression. My purpose was to demonstrate to you that I found your style of engagement deliberately obtuse and unhelpful, arrogant and egotistical. I have at no time called for the banning of you or anyone else and would not do so unless the persons posts were composed entirely of cut and pastes or promoted hate/violence. Even the occasional, no RARE!!, 'real' bit of Mee we get is enough to qualify as acceptable. That would be my own criteria. But it aint my forum, and it aint yours so I cannot fathom why you harp on about it. All I can say is that if you are so doggedly rabbiting on about every slight, and you talk to them like you do here, then your family must be extremely happy you spend so much time travelling!! For the record: I hope you remain around here a long time... if there is no space for most types here then it would not be worth coming here.

Tao

Tao

[cyberpi]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

True?

Tao, you asked a question and I have an answer. I have no quarrel whatsoever with you for the act of rebuking me, my beliefs, what I've said, the way I've said it, nor my style of posing you questions. Relax. I have disagreement with the content of your rebuke so far, but I personally appreciate the feedback whether I agree or disagree with it. If perchance I equally disapproved of your language, or found the content intolerable, or unbearable, I would consider it my failure if I banned you for the mere words.

There is no trickery intended in my questions. If they are annoying to you, realize now that I am aware that they are annoying to you.

Why do I go on about Silas and Niranjan... flogging the dead horse you might say... with juantoo3. I have my reasons. I don't mind if you view it as a sanctimonious nature. In a year I think I will be in Europe and would love to equally buy you dinner, if you wish.