www.comparative-religion.com
 
Comparative religion: 

world religions
 

Go Back   Interfaith forums > Religion, Faith, and Theology > Eastern Thought > Buddhism
Register Code of Conduct Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Buddhism Buddha and Buddhism: issues, discussions, and questions.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 11-11-2006, 03:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
Prober
Give Us This Day...
 
Prober's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Arizona
Posts: 1,258
The Buddha and the single flower...

Would someone recount the story of the Buddha giving a lecture by holding up a single flower and only one disciple getting it (smiling)?

I love the story, but can't find it.
Prober is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2006, 03:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
Snoopy
here and now
 
Snoopy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,785
Re: The Buddha and the single flower...

Hi,

Once, in ancient times, when the World-Honored One was at MountGrdhrakata, he twirled a flower before his assembled disciples. All were silent. Only Mahakasyapa broke into a smile.
The World-Honored One said, "I have the eye treasury of right Dharma, the subtle mind of Nirvana, the true form of no-form, and the flawless gate of the teaching. It is not established upon words and phrases. It is a special transmission outside tradition. I now entrust this to Mahakasyapa."

s.
Snoopy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2006, 07:11 PM   #3 (permalink)
Skaramunga
New Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 2
Re: The Buddha and the single flower...



It's a great story.
I just wanted to point out that it is more likely that the words attributed to the Buddha were added later on in history.

"It is not established upon words and phrases. It is a special transmission outside tradition. " Is usually attributed to Bodhidharma when he arrived in China to teach his new Buddhist philosophy which is better known now as Zen.
Skaramunga is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2006, 11:50 PM   #4 (permalink)
Vajradhara
Mod ~ Eastern Thought
 
Vajradhara's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Dharmadhatu
Posts: 2,808
Re: The Buddha and the single flower...

Namaste all,

interesting discussion.

in point of fact, the Ch'an lineage traces its history back to this very first Dharma talk

that phrase "special transmission outside of doctrine" is a tell-tale phrase in Ch'an Buddhist praxis and one can often find this same phrase interspersed in Taoist texts after the arrival of Buddha Dharma in China.

we must bear in mind, however, that the first 5 disciples were quite extraordinarily accomplished meditators and had the direct experience of the Buddha Shakyamuni.. so it may take a bit more for us to get the gist of it

metta,

~v
Vajradhara is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2006, 01:35 PM   #5 (permalink)
Prober
Give Us This Day...
 
Prober's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Arizona
Posts: 1,258
Re: The Buddha and the single flower...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vajradhara View Post
Namaste all,

interesting discussion.

in point of fact, the Ch'an lineage traces its history back to this very first Dharma talk

that phrase "special transmission outside of doctrine" is a tell-tale phrase in Ch'an Buddhist praxis and one can often find this same phrase interspersed in Taoist texts after the arrival of Buddha Dharma in China.

we must bear in mind, however, that the first 5 disciples were quite extraordinarily accomplished meditators and had the direct experience of the Buddha Shakyamuni.. so it may take a bit more for us to get the gist of it

metta,

~v
It tells me that all things can be known through observation. You don't need someone else to tell you.

It's handy to have someone point, sometimes...
Prober is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2006, 02:55 PM   #6 (permalink)
seattlegal
Why do cows say MU?
 
seattlegal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Pacific Ring of Fire
Posts: 1,987
Re: The Buddha and the single flower...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vajradhara View Post
Namaste all,

interesting discussion.

in point of fact, the Ch'an lineage traces its history back to this very first Dharma talk

that phrase "special transmission outside of doctrine" is a tell-tale phrase in Ch'an Buddhist praxis and one can often find this same phrase interspersed in Taoist texts after the arrival of Buddha Dharma in China.

we must bear in mind, however, that the first 5 disciples were quite extraordinarily accomplished meditators and had the direct experience of the Buddha Shakyamuni.. so it may take a bit more for us to get the gist of it

metta,

~v
Hmm,
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zhou Dunyi
"Therefore it is said, 'In representing the Dao of Heaven, one uses thr terms Yin and Yang, and in representing the Dao of Earth, one uses the terms Soft and Hard, while in representing the Dao of Man, one uses the terms Love and Righteousness.'"
seattlegal is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:20 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.0.0 ©2007, Crawlability, Inc.