the Bible from a Jehovah's Witness perspective

[mee]

New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures

[Jeannot]

QUERY: Are JWs Arians?

[AletheiaRivers]

Originally Posted by Jeannot

QUERY: Are JWs Arians?

I don't know about all of Arius' teachings, but as regards the relationship between God and Jesus, then yes, JW's fall into the Arian category.

[mee]

Originally Posted by Jeannot

QUERY: Are JWs Arians?

Because they do not believe in the Trinity dogma, it has been said of Jehovah’s Witnesses that they practice "a form of Arianism." But the fact that they are not Trinitarians does not make them Arians. so no we are not arians

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by mee

Because they do not believe in the Trinity dogma, it has been said of Jehovah’s Witnesses that they practice "a form of Arianism." But the fact that they are not Trinitarians does not make them Arians. so no we are not arians

I fail to see where the Trinity is "dogma". But then again, you fail to see where JW teachings are dogma...

Personally I could care less a man/woman's denomination. Jesus is savior is the core? Then we're alright.

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[mee]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

I fail to see where the Trinity is "dogma". But then again, you fail to see where JW teachings are dogma...

Personally I could care less a man/woman's denomination. Jesus is savior is the core? Then we're alright.

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Accurate Knowledge of Jesus is Vital to Salvation
How, then, can one gain true salvation? First Timothy 2:3, 4 answers: [God’s] will is that all sorts of men should be saved and come to an accurate knowledge of truth.

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by mee

Accurate Knowledge of Jesus is Vital to Salvation
How, then, can one gain true salvation? First Timothy 2:3, 4 answers: [God’s] will is that all sorts of men should be saved and come to an accurate knowledge of truth.

Insulting another Christian because he does not hold your point of view, is not very brotherly...and implying his views are "inaccurate" is a form of insult. I may have challenged your views before, but I never implied you were less than I, or ignorant of the truth...perhaps you might do me the same courtesy next time.

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[mee]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

Insulting another Christian because he does not hold your point of view, is not very brotherly...and implying his views are "inaccurate" is a form of insult. I may have challenged your views before, but I never implied you were less than I, or ignorant of the truth...perhaps you might do me the same courtesy next time.

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i didnt say you , i was just stating what the bible says , many people say they believe in Jesus , but the bible talks about accurate knowledge , and Jesus himself said that there would be ones who believed in Jesus , and claimed to do great things in his name ,yet he said to them get away from me you workers of lawlessness.
Many will say to me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness matthew 7;22,23
but at no time have i said that of you, i am just bringing out what the bible says, so i dont think it is just a case of believing in Jesus, it is getting the accurate knowledge about Jehovah and Jesus
(John 17:3) This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ
(Philippians 1:9) And this is what I continue praying, that YOUR love may abound yet more and more with accurate knowledge and full discernment

[China Cat Sunflower]

Originally Posted by mee

Accurate Knowledge of Jesus is Vital to Salvation
How, then, can one gain true salvation? First Timothy 2:3, 4 answers: [God’s] will is that all sorts of men should be saved and come to an accurate knowledge of truth.

All sorts of men? A convenient modification.

Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. (KJV)

...who wants all men to be saved and come to a knowledge of the truth. (NIV)

Chris

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by China Cat Sunflower

All sorts of men? A convenient modification.
Chris

Welcome back.

[China Cat Sunflower]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

Welcome back.

Why thank you!

Chris

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by mee

i didnt say you , i was just stating what the bible says , many people say they believe in Jesus , but the bible talks about accurate knowledge , and Jesus himself said that there would be ones who believed in Jesus , and claimed to do great things in his name ,yet he said to them get away from me you workers of lawlessness.
Many will say to me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness matthew 7;22,23
but at no time have i said that of you, i am just bringing out what the bible says, so i dont think it is just a case of believing in Jesus, it is getting the accurate knowledge about Jehovah and Jesus
(John 17:3) This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ
(Philippians 1:9) And this is what I continue praying, that YOUR love may abound yet more and more with accurate knowledge and full discernment

Yeah, Mee. Jesus was talking about those that talk the big talk but never walked the walk. Those that never lifted a hand to help another, beyond their whatever. He meant those that talk and do nothing to back that talk up. That is what Jesus meant. Even my sons at six understood that.

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[Dor]

Originally Posted by China Cat Sunflower

All sorts of men? A convenient modification.





Chris

Welcome Chris to the NWT

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Dor

Welcome Chris to the NWT

The welcome was back to the Christianity Forum, thank you very much.

[mee]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

Yeah, Mee. Jesus was talking about those that talk the big talk but never walked the walk. Those that never lifted a hand to help another, beyond their whatever. He meant those that talk and do nothing to back that talk up. That is what Jesus meant. Even my sons at six understood that.

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yes thats correct , they are not doing what Jesus told them too, they are followers in name only, that was the point i was trying to make , even though they think they are doing right in Gods eyes it seems they will not be doing the right things , So it is important to have accurate knowledge about Jehovah and Jesus then we can do the things they want us too