the Bible from a Jehovah's Witness perspective - Page 30

17th Angel · 12-01-2006, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mee

psalm 83 ;18That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.KJV .even though this name should be throughout the bible the KJV retained it in only a few verses , when it should have been in thousands of verses, yes the one who has the world in his power at the momment (satan the devil)1 John 5;19 the opposer of God , has been allowed to rule his way down through time ,and he has tried to stamp out any sign of the true God, but Gods word the pure word of God has now been made known in a pure way by translations such as the NWT . but satan has great influence on people to hide the name of the true God by taking the name out of the translations ,and the newer version of the KJV has i think taken it out all togeather. verrrrrrrrrrrrrry bad in the eyes of Jehovah God.

He's got yah Josh :P Mee... Alot of what you post seems word for word simular to things I have read else where.. Watchtower.org ?

mee · 12-01-2006, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dor

Where is 1914 mentioned

fullfilled bible prophecies and chronology. serious bible students find bible prophecies very enlightening . they reveal many things about the Goodnews of the kingdom Daniel 2;44 . matthew 24;14 . the goodnews is a wonderful thing to behold but some are blinded to the goodnews .
If, now, the good news we declare is in fact veiled, it is veiled among those who are perishing, 4 among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through. 2 corinthians 4;3-4 yes many thing in this time of the end are to do with Jesus christ and the goodnews of the heavenly kingdom goverment Daniel 2;44 daniel 7;13-14 thrilling times indeed . maybe you have your sunglasses on and the light is not shinng through to enlighten you. i have taken my old sun glasses off and now the light is shining through verrrrrrrrrry clearly

mee · 12-01-2006, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BlaznFattyz

that is such a tired argument that trinity is not found in the bible, but good response to it nevertheless. those that do not see it, it is obvious they have preconceived notions and blinders on that they pick and choose scripture to meet their objectives, but do not take the bible in as a whole.. when it is found that it doesnt go with their interpretation, they just just the words of the bible to meet their needs. sad.

yes ,the bible is always the aurthority. and listening to Jesus is the way to go .
This is my Son, the one that has been chosen. Listen to him.’"—Luke 9:35.
The trinity doctrine was unknown to the Hebrew prophets and Christian apostles. and as the christian apostles listened to Jesus, they knew that Jesus taught that the father was greater than he was . the bible is a book of truth with out any manmade doctrines added .
Jesus Christ himself said, "The Father is greater than I am" and referred to the Father as his God, "the only true God." (Joh 14:28; 17:3; 20:17; Mr 15:34; Re 1:1; 3:12)
because the Father is greater than I am. John 14;28

Dor · 12-01-2006, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mee

yes ,the bible is always the aurthority. and listening to Jesus is the way to go .
This is my Son, the one that has been chosen. Listen to him.’"—Luke 9:35.
The trinity doctrine was unknown to the Hebrew prophets and Christian apostles. and as the christian apostles listened to Jesus, they knew that Jesus taught that the father was greater than he was . the bible is a book of truth with out any manmade doctrines added .
Jesus Christ himself said, "The Father is greater than I am" and referred to the Father as his God, "the only true God." (Joh 14:28; 17:3; 20:17; Mr 15:34; Re 1:1; 3:12)
because the Father is greater than I am. John 14;28

The Bible is a book of truth. The NWT is not simple fact.

BlaznFattyz · 12-01-2006, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mee

Jesus Christ himself said, "The Father is greater than I am" and referred to the Father as his God, "the only true God."

yes jesus said that during his time on earth as fully god and fully man, so that quote really doesnt prove that he is not god, just that he was made for a time in the flesh so god could exhalt him. however as god in the beginning, as a baby in the manger, to him being exhalted back to the father in heaven, all angels have always worshipped jesus, because it is only god that is worshipped, as we should.

mee · 12-02-2006, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dor

The Bible is a book of truth. The NWT is not simple fact.

Yes the pure word of God is the truth just as the NWT tells us ,
"As for the word of our God, it will last to time indefinite."—ISAIAH 40:8.
no
bedarkening traditions of men and pagan philosophies of this world to cloud the thought of the pure word of God . the NWT is a very good translation of the pure word of God just what we need

mee · 12-02-2006, 04:19 PM

[quote=BlaznFattyz;82043]yes jesus said that during his time on earth as fully god and fully man, [quote] lots of people say many things that are not in the bible . but the bible is very clear indeed. it teaches us that Jesus was the only-begotten son of God.
"For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent forth his Son into the world, not for him to judge the world, but for the world to be saved through him. John 3;16-17

BlaznFattyz · 12-02-2006, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mee

it teaches us that Jesus was the only-begotten son of God.

that which is god, that which is with god, that which came directly from god, a manifestation of god come humbly in the flesh that walked among us, that came to die for our sins so god may exhalt and glorify him as our saviour, that is the begotten son of god, that the lord calls lord, that god calls god, because they are one in the same: god.

...all angels worship jesus, because it is only god that is worshipped, as we should.

BlaznFattyz · 12-02-2006, 05:26 PM

i think the thread is purposely being bumped by repeating things that were already said already over and over and over. ha ha... yawn.

pattimax · 12-02-2006, 05:42 PM

mee,
What

pattimax · 12-02-2006, 05:46 PM

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mee,
What

Oops. I will start again.
mee,
What is the NWT of Jeremiah 33:14-16?

pattimax · 12-02-2006, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pattimax

Oops. I will start again.
mee,
What is the NWT of Jeremiah 33:14-16?

While you are at it, could you also dig up 23:5-6 (Jeremiah)

mee · 12-02-2006, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by pattimax

Oops. I will start again.
mee,
What is the NWT of Jeremiah 33:14-16?

‘Look! There are days coming,’ is the utterance of Jehovah, ‘and I shall certainly carry out the good word that I have spoken, concerning the house of Israel and concerning the house of Judah. 15 In those days and at that time I shall make sprout for David a righteous sprout, and he will certainly execute justice and righteousness in the land. 16 In those days Judah will be saved and Jerusalem itself will reside in security. And this is what she will be called, Jehovah Is Our Righteousness.’"......................... yes its all happened with the sprout Jesus christ, and the Jerusalem above ,
But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother Galations 4;26

mee · 12-02-2006, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by pattimax

While you are at it, could you also dig up 23:5-6 (Jeremiah)

New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures
.......... here it is for the taking

Quahom1 · 12-02-2006, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mee

New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures
.......... here it is for the taking

Sorry Mee, this is getting out of line. Watch Tower tract is not Bible scripture.

"For all interested, Biblical Scripture and Watch Tower Tracts are not one and the same. Same can be said for Mormon's Book of Mormon and the Bible, or the Catholic doctrines, Papal Bulls, and the Bible. "

It is all an interpretation, from specific groups, not subject to the Bible as authority. They are all merely opinions, they each call authority, but it is not biblical authority. It is human authority.

The Bible (last time I checked), needed no assistance as to its authority.

We are not here to sell a specific denomination. We're here to discuss Christianity. However, it has gone beyond that.

Time to stop.

v/r

Joshua