The Arc of the Covenant

[Marietta]

Hello I, Brian, Thank you for providing me with the answer to my question, which makes a lot of sense to me.
Love and Light, Marietta

[flowperson]

bruagach:

While employed by a large research university some years ago my specialty was to handle intellectual property matters at the corporate level. My responsibilities included negotiating many contracts where intellectual property matters and also publication rights issues were decided. I was often "accused" of being a lawyer, but nothing could be further from the truth.

Back when the Bayh-Dole act was passed in the early 80's, US universities had to scramble to find people who could function in these roles without paying them a king's ransom to do so. The truth was that I just had a knack for the stuff and any deals I cut were always run-by appropriate counsel before being entered into. Now, of course, if I applied for such a job I would be laughed at because of my lack of formal education and credentials in this field.

Since Marietta is posting materials owned by the spiritual group that she is affiliated with, I believe that the use of it here would fall under the "fair use" principle. I don't see this as being any different than the Gideons passing out Bibles to hotels, JWs passing out Watchtowers, or Mormons passing out The Book of Mormon. Of course, except for The Watchtower example, such activities are only really the distribution of educational materials that are in the "public domain".

The "fair use" provision regarding copyrightable materials basically says that in the case of materials that are not offered for sale elsewhere, the owner has the right to grant "fair use" of such materials for educational purposes, especially in the case of usage by those affiliated with the owners of the materials. I think that's how it goes. Of course CR could consult an intellectual property specialist attorney for an opinion on this, but these days such people usually charge upwards of $500 an hour for their time. I'd be inclined to take her word on this... but then it's not my website.

Besides...I find this stuff to be pretty interesting...,and we're here to share information regarding religion and spiritual matters aren't we ?

flow....

[Marietta]

Hello Flow, Thank you for giving us this information, it is very much appreciated.

Love and Light, Marietta

[bgruagach]

Flow, thanks for the input.

Marietta was not clear until recently that she was part of the group that had produced the material she quoted. This could all have been cleared up at the start if she had provided a clear indication of where the copied-and-pasted material came from, what the copyright statement was concerning the quoted material, and that she was one of the authors.

Copyright issues on the internet are a very sticky situation because sites such as Comparative-Religion.com are not limited to just one country and arguably could be held accountable by laws from all over the place. Copyright laws are also a very hot topic and are frequently being changed (virtually eliminating "fair use" provisions in some draconian instances) so it's always safer for us to be a bit strict in discouraging copying-and-pasting large tracts into discussions here.

It's always better for us if a link to the original is provided instead and for the Comparative-Religions user to post their own thoughts on the material. The point of the messageboard is for discussion rather than a soapbox for posting tracts.

[flowperson]

bgruagach:

So sorry to have bungled your handle on the last post. Thanks for the comeback...and yes I agree that the net has vastly complicated the picture on copyrightable works. Some of us around the country in the 80's advised legislators that a total re-evaluation of intellectual property legislation was probably needed in the U.S. because of what technology was going to do to the accepted methods of protection and licensing. I think that just the fiascos concerning music downloads and curently You-Tube help to prove the point as per copyrightable works.

Marietta...yup, if you are part of the ownership of the stuff that you paste to the board let us know up front. By the way...I've downloaded the stuff you've already provided for my files. Very interesting. Also are you aware that a cache of round 10" stone plates with concentric grooves resembling old analog recordings were discovered in western China about fifteen years ago? Their estimated age was 10-12,000 years ago, plus or minus 1,000 yrs. I saw some initial reports when they were found but nothing since. What a surprise !

flow....

[alexa]

Marietta, I read twice that article and no matter how hard I tried to understand it from a different perspective (as you seem to consider it), it still looks like a science fiction text to me.

What's your point ? What you really want to discuss about the Arc of the convenant ?

[Marietta]

Greetings Alexa, Thank you for the response.
The point is that the ark of the Covenant was a big gold box containing portal opening tools. Which explains why according to the Bible it had to be handled so carefully. It had to be carried with special wood pools to protect those carrying the Ark from dying from the radiation. The bible says that anybody who touched the box died. The bible makes it sound like this big mean god was very petty and killed anybody who touched his box. I don't see it that way at all.
I guess the point is that God is not petty and does not go around killing people who don't follow his rules. Those who touched the Ark died because of the radiation and the warning not to touch the box was to protect them. Although I didn't really have a point when I posted this message except to share some information.
Love and Light, Marietta

[bgruagach]

Originally Posted by Marietta

Greetings Alexa, Thank you for the response.
The point is that the ark of the Covenant was a big gold box containing portal opening tools. Which explains why according to the Bible it had to be handled so carefully. It had to be carried with special wood pools to protect those carrying the Ark from dying from the radiation. The bible says that anybody who touched the box died. The bible makes it sound like this big mean god was very petty and killed anybody who touched his box. I don't see it that way at all.
I guess the point is that God is not petty and does not go around killing people who don't follow his rules. Those who touched the Ark died because of the radiation and the warning not to touch the box was to protect them. Although I didn't really have a point when I posted this message except to share some information.
Love and Light, Marietta

Interesting theory. One major problem with it though is that radiation is not like poison -- you can be affected by it without having to actually touch a radioactive item. Being near it is enough to be affected.

Light is a form of radiation; it can give us a sunburn without us actually touching the surface of the sun.

[Marietta]

Greetings bgruagach, Thank you for the response.
You are merely speaking of one of many forms of radiation. Some radiation is deadly. To give you and example here is what Wikipedia says about Radiation.
Radiation

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Radiation in Physics is the process of emitting energy in the form of waves or particles. Various types of radiation may be distinguished, depending on the properties of the emitted energy/matter, the type of the emission source, properties and purposes of the emission, etc. When used by the general public, the word "radiation" commonly refers to ionizing radiation.
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[edit] Radiation by type of emission

• Electromagnetic radiation, a stream of photons.
  • Gamma radiation, which is high-energy electromagnetic waves.
  • Ultraviolet radiation, also known as UV.
  • Infrared radiation, also known as heat.
• Gravitational radiation, a predicted consequence of general relativity.
• Particle radiation, radiation by means of particles that have a rest mass.
  • Alpha radiation, composed of the nuclei of helium-4 atoms.
  • Beta radiation, consisting of energetic electrons or positrons.
  • Neutron radiation

[edit] Radiation by source/cause of emission

• Particle:
  • Delta radiation
  • Epsilon radiation

• Electromagnetic:
  • Cherenkov radiation, electromagnetic radiation by a particle moving through an insulating medium faster than the speed of light in that medium.
  • Synchrotron radiation, radiation by a charged particle undergoing acceleration.
  • Solar radiation, radiation emitted by the sun.
  • Thermal radiation, emission of electromagnetic radiation by a hot object
  • Hawking radiation, thermal radiation thought to be emitted by black holes due to quantum effects.

[edit] Radiation by properties of emission

• Ionizing radiation, radiation with sufficient energy to cause ionization.
• Non-ionizing radiation, radiation that does not carry enough energy to directly cause ionization.

Love and Light, Marietta


You wrote:
Interesting theory. One major problem with it though is that radiation is not like poison -- you can be affected by it without having to actually touch a radioactive item. Being near it is enough to be affected.

Light is a form of radiation; it can give us a sunburn without us actually touching the surface of the sun.

[bgruagach]

I still have a hard time understanding how something that is radioactive and as dangerous as you claim would only hurt people who touched it.

If the items in the Ark were radioactive, wooden poles for carrying the Ark would certainly not protect a person from the radiation. The Ark itself would have to be the radiation shield which would mean that touching the Ark wouldn't hurt a person.

[Marietta]

Wood does not act as a conduit for radio active energy to pass through. It act as a buffer.
Love and Light, Marietta

[flowperson]

Hello marietta and bgruagach:

A few points if I may. First let's differentiate between "arc" and "ark".
"Ark" in its simplest and most prevalent usage in the OT only means "box". Admittedly, the ark of the covenant was a very special box. It contained some very sacred items if Genesis is to be believed. If I am not mistaken it contained fragments of the tablets of the law received by Moses from G-d and then were broken into pieces when Moses hurled them to the ground when he came upon scenes of transgressions by his people. The ark was also supposed to have contained a perpetually flowering almond branch, and an omer of manna...the whitish substance that descended from heaven overnight and could be made into flatbread and eaten for sustenance by the Hebrew tribe when nothing else was available in the wilderness.

The ark may have also been some sort of a primitive quantum computing and communications device, but apparently only had receiving capabilities. The rituals performed annually by the King of the Hebrews and the high priest point to this because of the light rituals they performed with it. Once a year they were allowed to ask questions of the ark which represented G-d's virtual presence, and then received answers in the form of light emanations from the ark which spelled out G-d's answers when interpreted with the ephod, the urim, and the thummim. Actually the form and construction of the ark, a specifically designed acacia wood box covered with gold sheeting and gold ornamentation, is a reasonable description of how one would build a sizeable capacitor, which is a device which receives and stores energy and can be manipulated to discharge the energies when necessary and appropriate.

The poles were to keep the carriers and users of the ark from accidently coming into contact with the gold conductive surfaces of the box. If the ark received a charging of energies over time, great caution would have to be taken so as to not ground the device and inappropriately discharge the energies. An analogy would be to grab a live wire while standing barefooted in a puddle. This would mean instant death if the accumulated voltage and amperage levels were sufficient. Such lethal energies can be transmitted and received through the air as Nicola Tesla demonstrated in many experiments during the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. Energy transmissions through earth materials is also well known and has been utilized in a large part in our cell phone systems the past twenty years or so.

An "arc" could be defined as an open-ended curve, usually a parabola or a hyperbola. A spheroid circular segment would not qualify here because mathematically, it defines a closed system. Calculations of travel through space often employs calculations of trajectories which encompass the descriptions of parabolic or hyperbolic arcs. Theoretically these sorts of curves have no beginning or no end, but yet may be used to define the travel of energies or objects through time and space. The gateway arch in St. Louis would be a good example.

flow....

[Marietta]

Hello Flow, Thank you for the reply. Some good information.

The Hebrew word for ark was not translated it was transliterated and can be spelled with either a K or a C. When you translate something you take a word from one language and apply the meaning using words of another language. When you transliterate a word you simply take the letters from the one language and match the sound up with the corresponding sound of a letter in another languages alphabet. However both ark and arc apply here. One is the big gold box which held the rod and the staff and the other is the frequency/arc that the used to open dimensional portals.
The bible account as we have it says that the ark contains the two tablets of the law, Aaron's rod that budded, and a pot of manna. The Ark according to the bible had both receiving and transmitting capabilities since the presence of the energy manifested on the mercy seat and questions were received as well as answers given. The high priest had to go through all kinds of so called ritual bathing at the laver as well as applying special oils. He wore bells and pomegranates around the bottom of his robe. The reason for this was because if he missed even one act of purification he would die. The helpers outside the Holy of Holies would listen to the noise of the bells and pomegranates around the him of his robe and if they stopped they knew that he had died. Due to the fact that only the high priest could enter the Holy of Holies and then only after all the necessary preparation he had a rope around his leg that let to the inner court. If he died they pulled the body out by this rope. The ark acted like an inter-dimensional radio receiver/transmitter.
As to the meaning of an arc. The fibonacci spiral (or the fib of no Chi) is an imperfect spiral which the mathematics have shown. The correct spiral is called the Crystal spiral and the mathematics are perfect. The fibonacci spiral sucks energy where the Crystal spiral has a perfect balance of breathing inward and outward allowing for a perfect balance of an exchange of energy. All of nature at the present has reversals running through which is why we die. Death is not a natural state and is caused by Molecular compaction. The crystal spiral will anchor here by the first of the year.

Love and Light, Marietta

[flowperson]

Marietta:

I didn't know about the rope bit, but it makes sense. The fibonacci spiral also makes sense since the mathematical sequences defining the form are found everywhere in nature. I'm unclear on the crystal spiral concept...especially with regard to its arriving the first of next year. Could you elaborate on this ?

Also the compunction with cleanliness makes sense. It reminds me of how "clean rooms" must be utilized when dealing with scientifically or technologically complex devices and systems, whether animate or inanimate. My intuition tells me this has to do with quantum gateways of some sort both in the "ark" stories and in modern applications. Dirt sullies the quality of the results in both instances. This also defines the standards which determined that the altar of sacrifice had to be placed in the courtyard of the tabernacle/temple. Rituals so clearly connected with death should certainly have not been placed in close proximity to the source(s) of life and sacred knowledge.

flow....

[bgruagach]

I still don't think it's been explained how wooden handles makes any difference if the Ar(k/c) of the Covenant contained radioactive material.

You don't have to touch a radioactive item, or something touching it, in order for the radiation to be transmitted. It's not like electricity! Standing nearby is enough to be affected.

When an atomic bomb goes off a wooden wall will not protect you from radiation. A thick lead wall on the other hand is dense enough to do the job.

Another example is how dentists put a lead apron over vulnerable parts of your body, and then will step out of the room (which is shielded) when they take dental x-rays. The danger is being close enough to the unshielded radioactive source and has nothing to do with touching it or metal items that might be touching it.

Flow's explanation of the Ark sounds much more reasonable to me and requires far fewer unverified assumptions to believe.