Synchronicity

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by sara[h]ng

I'd like to add something that's a little off of the current topic in this thread but which I'm surprised has not been addressed here.

That idea in one of the early posts here, that you can ask for something and receive it, I don't think that that is God that one is communicating with, but one's spirit guides. Of course, they are called guides for a reason and synchronicity may come from them arranging things to help guide us.

Certain prominent psychics (James van Praagh comes to mind) have 'proved' the existence of spiritual guides - in the sense that if you believe that the psychic is telling the truth, you cannot not believe that spirit guides are real.

I am ever the skeptic, but I have known enough different people with psychic abilities, who are all entirely unaffiliated and who are all aware of these things, and at their direction I have 'experimented'... I believe, as solidly as I do that there is a God, that spirit guides do exist and this is from whence at least part of synchronicity comes.

I do also accept science and believe it and the spiritual world to be at harmony. I'm curious as to how things like quantum physics and spiritual beings fit together. Intriguing. :-)

- Sarah

Hi Sarah,
great point.....from my humble understanding of how we operate on the Field it could be that these spirit guides are infact the quantum energy part of our true selves.

I too am always the sceptic but the experiences of myself and others have led me very much to the conclusion that there are levels beyond the physical plane. We have been tapping into them for such a long long time, (the australian aboriginal concept of 'the dreamtime' is uncannily similair to the proposed quantum world in which our quantum selves exist), and I have high hopes that further research is going to blow peoples minds. Some people have always accepted these things, science is imho about to prove them.

I sort of hope that once we better understand it we can develop new more efficient ways of learning and creating and settle some of the age old arguments that set people apart. I really should start meditating again and trying to use it more myself, sometimes I feel I'm on the edge of concious contact with it. Perhaps just wishful thinking

Regards

TE

[_Z_]

T E, hey



Ah I heard a little of the zero point field. Perhaps then this is what I have been meaning when I use the term Ether – and to a degree infinity.



Remote viewing: I wonder how this works? If we think of mind as a vortex in the ocean of the ether [my favourite saying at the moment eh!], there seams to be a perspective thing involved in our individuality. We see from this epicentral perspective, so why not from a remote [‘seeing’] perspective view! Sometimes it is possible to visualise a visage of someone and direct thoughts [subconsciously mutual] towards them and interact in other ways of the universal mind [and with groups of individuals too].

Another way of seeing it, is that the remote viewer would not have to actually occupy the seat of the other view- so to say – merely visualise ‘through’ it as if mirroring what it sees?



I don’t know much about remote viewing, but I like to work these things out or at least find some truth from it eh!



Sara, hello!

that you can ask for something and receive it, I don't think that that is God that one is communicating with, but one's spirit guides.

Or perhaps we are literally creating our own future, like cutting a path through the jungle. The universal mind is responsive and receptive, and anything may arise from the void [base of existence]. We can keep our thoughts flowing within our sphere, or send them out. gods and spirits can help in this and in teaching it, I would say that ultimately the learned ones can do it for themselves.



Have a look around if you will – there are many threads on this topic or similars. Personally I don’t draw lines, the physical and spiritual are both of the ether in essence.

The quantum mind X infinty may replace the spiritual philosophy and understanding one day! I think that psychics spiritualist etc. utilise the universal mind – even visions arise within it – as if we are using our minds in a non finite format!



All we need are some new words for spirit etc.



Respect all



Z

[Tao_Equus]

hi Z,
I think remote viewing is a simple utilisation of quantum entanglement.

Regards

TE

[_Z_]

T E
Well yes it is indded – now explain what you mean? And how you think it works!
what is it when we put it all togerther? this is intriguing me at the moment!

The universal mind/quantum matrix and 'zreo point mind' - infinity + gaia. if we add this to the incredibly complex 'shape' of existence in all time and the intellect of/within it - wow what a thing 'it' is eh!
Z

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by _Z_

T E
Well yes it is indded – now explain what you mean? And how you think it works!
what is it when we put it all togerther? this is intriguing me at the moment!

The universal mind/quantum matrix and 'zreo point mind' - infinity + gaia. if we add this to the incredibly complex 'shape' of existence in all time and the intellect of/within it - wow what a thing 'it' is eh!
Z

Hiya

Well its 4.15am and I just woke up.....I hope I make sense.

Quantum entanglement is the capcity for 2 particles to be linked together and share information in real time regardless of how distantly they are separated in distance/time. In remote viewing the mind would form an entanglement with particles in the vicinity of the target and they would pass the information back to the viewer.

The Zero Point Field you can in some sense liken to the WWW. Only much more efficient because it is not governed by the limitations of relativity. Information can be shared/passed by any two (or more) points in the universe instantly. Additionaly the field as a whole seems to have a 'search engine' function with 'commands' also able to be brought to realisation. This is function that things like prayer and magic can be said to harnessing.

Gaia I believe uses this for communication. Some people for example have suggested that our dreams are when Gaia detects our minds are 'idle' and uploads the days information for 'proccessing'. Beyond Gaia I really have not done enough research to make any comment.

The question, the real question, is whether the zero point field is like the www and a tool or whether it has sentience of its own. In regard to our discussion on the infinite repeated layers of complexity we may see that we have discovered the existence of the field at the same time as the, almost accidental, birth of the www. An incredible synchronicity.

I have not forgotten about digging out that peice on the Singapore Stock Exchange using a communication network that uses quantum entanglement for super-secure encryption. I did search the New Scientist archive but it seems to throw up larger articles where as this was a paragraph. As soon as I have time I will dig out my old copies and get trawling.

Hope this helps

regards

TE

[Tao_Equus]

Glitch???

[Tao_Equus]

Just thinking this forum would be the perfect place to conduct a little remote viewing experiment ......hmmmm....

[wil]

Edgar Mitchell 6th man to step on the moon, founder of the Institute of Noetic Sciences was interviewed by the gals at bto and discussed the ESP experiments and remote viewing done between him and Houston on the way to the moon...

[I, Brian]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

Yeh, the quantum matrix is called by physicists the Zero Point Field. Its essentially identical to victorian concepts of 'ether' and from there all things ethereal and spiritual are possible.

Now that does sound promising - I found myself having to invoke a similar concept as the ether to describe my own worldview.

WHKeith has certainly been a thoughtful poster here - I really should order his book and see if it can be inspiring.

[Tao_Equus]

Will,
Thank you so much for that link !!......it's a gem of a site

Brian,
Beeen thinking exactly the same !!


Regards

TE

[Tao_Equus]

I would recommend to all interested in these topics to follow the links Wil so kindly shared. There are many great ideas and thoughts to be found there. Thank you again Wil


Regards

TE

[pohaikawahine]

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned this site and what brings people to it, is it not synchronicity that brought us all together .... some pass by,but others are drawn in .... then thoughts are shared and seeds planted .... we each nuture each other , draw from each other , share a meal, we each teach, we are all students .... then we move on and the circle continues to grow and strengthen .... more and more are learning to follow that intuitive feeling inside .... then we let go of the banks and begin to flow with the stream, which turns into a river, and then flows toward the ancient ocean .... our thoughts have changed and we begin the change ..... each now a part of each .... just my thoughts to share .... aloha nui, pohaikawahine