Solution for Humanity!!!

[greymare]

four colours of man??? whats this, please

[Bishadi]

Originally Posted by greymare

four colours of man??? whats this, please

Red, black, yellow and white.... ever see the wheel of

see the hopi.... (caretakers of the land)

Who are awaiting the 'great white brother'.......

When the GWB brings the last piece of the puzzle........ 'knowledge'... then the combining of mankind can begin.

In the Hopi Medicine Wheel of the Hopi prophecy of the four peoples of the Earth, the cardinal direction North represents the body, air, the color white and 'white skinned peoples', birth, and/or meeting a stranger and learning to trust as in infancy, explained in Erik Erikson's stages of Psychosocial development. The East is held to represent the mind, fire, the color yellow and 'yellow skinned peoples', the adolescent stage, and learning the groups to which people belong. The South holds the heart, the color red and 'red skinned peoples', the Earth, and the young adult stage. Finally West holds the spirit, water, the color blue or black, and 'black-skinned peoples'. West can also represent the final life stage in the wheel, being an elder and passing on knowledge to the next generation so that the wheel may start again just like the circle it takes after. Some claim that the four colours refering to skin colours around the world is a European idea that came after contact.

That was wiki.. but try any search and see for yourself.......

[Dream]

Hey look!

Originally Posted by Wikipedia

The Four Worlds

Hopi legend tells that the current earth is the Fourth World to be inhabited by Tawa's creations. The story essentially states that in each previous world, the people, though originally happy, became disobedient and lived contrary to Tawa's plan; they engaged in sexual promiscuity, fought one another and would not live in harmony. Thus, the most obedient were led (usually by Spider Woman) to the next higher world, with physical changes occurring both in the people in the course of their journey, and in the environment of the next world. In some stories, these former worlds were then destroyed along with their wicked inhabitants, whereas in others the good people were simply led away from the chaos which had been created by their actions.

Sound familiar, anybody?

[greymare]

sounds like a lovely story

[Bishadi]

Originally Posted by greymare

sounds like a lovely story

When people offer knowledge to assist in the 'solutions for humanity'..... then it is a 'Love'......

Each can suggest what others believe, but what do 'you' think will assist humanity?

[greymare]

i think we have all tools necessary right now, whethere we use them for good or not is up to us.

[Bishadi]

Originally Posted by greymare

i think we have all tools necessary right now, whethere we use them for good or not is up to us.

So you suggest you have nothing to offer existence?

Or that to share what the 4 colors of men, meant....... there was really nothing for you to learn and share, behind it?

The idea, that any man has no effect, it like saying Newton, Confucious and JC himself, were really just flukes.

Each made a choice and now the question is 'what is yours?'

Do you find any knowledge good enough to share to all the world?

Is there something completely pure within these pages that could actually assist our brethren?

Even to share to one person what is good and truly life giving, is only a matter of choice, for you to plant them seeds and live a long time in your contribution.

[greymare]

i didnt say I have nothing to offer......... please dont read into my words what i havent written.
i am here to learn
and as for the rest........ i already do.
"use your powers for good, not evil"
was the message i was trying to get across.

[Bishadi]

Originally Posted by greymare

i didnt say I have nothing to offer......... please dont read into my words what i havent written.
i am here to learn
and as for the rest........ i already do.
"use your powers for good, not evil"
was the message i was trying to get across.

you are correct

whethere we use them for good or not is up to us

oooops!

My apologies .... i imagine if I was perfect, i would be 'walkin on water'

[greymare]

same. and here i was thinking i , too was perfect. oh well, back to the drrawing board for me........ LOL

[Vajradhara]

Namaste and Salaam Islam is for you,

thank you for the post.

Originally Posted by islamis4u

One example about Islam i would like to give is that we stand side by side in the mosque their is no distinction in color rich poor or race all are equal to Allah Almighty, we are said to join or foot with each other, we should join our shoulder as much as we could who ever stand beside you, like this one you have? Practically.

yes, our monestaries and temples have meditation and Sutta recital in the same manner, though it depends a bit on the culture. in some cultures the women and men are seperated into different areas and in others they are not. irrespective of that cultural consideration, all beings are equal in terms of class, status and so forth.

sorry but i will reply other later i have a head ache right now here it is 4.09am and may be my reply would come later because of my studies schedule i have.

sure thing take your time and do well in your studies.

metta,

~v

[Vajradhara]

Namaste and Salaam Islamis for you,

thank you for the post.

Originally Posted by islamis4u

look Islam do tell you what to wear it just prescribe you the limit in which you can choose so that you and also society would be save from that factor!!!!It saves the woman from the male lust eyes!!

clearly it does not. demonstrably it does not. Muslim men still feel lust towards women regardless of what they are wearing. it is, however, a very male excuse to blame ones own arousal upon a female.

what is protecting the female from the male body and feelings of lust? shouldn't men have to cover themselves too?

when you analyze such teachings along these lines it becomes easy to distinguish the cultural accretions from the religious teachings in my estimation.

One thing is also noted in the report is that the least rate of rape in countries are those which are Islamic okay!

but there is no evidence given for this, it is simply stated.

further, there is no reasonable way to even get this information since many women that are raped in Muslim countries don't report it for they, the victim, are often found guilty of a crime.

no system that penalizes the victim of a sex crime for being a victim is just or ethical.

Islam have no negative aspect

that is, of course, your opinion. my opinion on this matter is, clearly, different. however, that isn't the question for this response.. i was asking why you wanted to focus on the negative instead of the positive.

why you like to focus on negative aspects of behavior and culture rather than focus on the positive ones. when negative attention is brought towards Islam and Muslim culture it seems you are not wanting to discuss it as much as the positive aspects of Islam and Muslim culture. why the double standard?

I tell yes you are right i say that man should also have to have right gaze

and he should have to cover up. a woman shouldn't feel lust when she looks at a man, correct?

You just give me answer in one and two that a girl with mini skirt 1 and girl in hijab second 2 whom they will put more bad eyes on just give me answer in 1 and 2 i would not entertain any other playing with words okay!!!

i can't answer the question. i've seen women in hijab that were clearly more attractive than women in miniskirts or even nude. for me attractiveness is more than simply how a humans body looks there is an ineffable quality which comes through regardless of the amount of clothing that is being worn.

it strikes me as an antiquated, patriarchal view.

I do not listen to al jazzera saying and do not know much about it!!

then you should since it would make your claims about media in the West wrong.

the problem is, essentially the thing you are talking about. You have this impression, this image, this view of Western beings that is pretty inaccurate and downright strange in some ways. in the same way that you say Westerners don't have a good understanding of Muslims it seems that you don't have a good understanding of Westerners.

if any non-Muslim act of terrorism is found they do not point out or highlight it much!!!!

you don't read or watch Western media therefore you have no idea how much non-Muslim terrorism is covered in the Western news media, do you? the simple fact of the matter is that when it happens it's covered and whomever takes credit for it is, usually, given credit for it.

you may be right, it may be that we beings living in the West don't have a good understanding of Muslims. it seems equally true that you don't have a good understanding of beings living in the West. whilst you can't change the opinions of every Western being; you are just one person and you can change your mind.

i hope that at the conclusion of our discussion you've changed your mind about a few misconceptions that you had about Westerners.

metta,

~v