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Old 01-10-2007, 09:25 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: Smoking

in my world, all the non smokers have to wear masks, to protect their itty bitty lungs from shrivelling up... "I dont want to be polluted by ur noxious smoke, cough, cough..." fine and dandy, but I don't want to suffer from ur car exhaust fumes and ur spent aircraft fuel smog either...

I'm also a fan of bare knuckle, but its no fun without elbows, biting and gouging...
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Old 01-10-2007, 09:58 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Re: Smoking

I've always figured when I hit 75 or 80 I'll take up all the vices, full bore...

But seriously all the second hand smoke studies, showing dramatically increased carbon monoxide and a variety of chemicals from smoke in blood streams of those breathing the second hand smoke...the kicker is they were performed by tobacco companies attempting to prove themselves right for their court battles...and they conducted the studies outside...OUTSIDE!!

Bottom line, if you smell, SMELL smoke, you are smoking a cigarette, don't matter who's it is.

Of course I also feel if smokers liked it so much they wouldn't exhale...

yes former smoker...never much though...teens and early twenties...gave up the weak stuff for the hgh tar stuff...and then quit that too...after having offspring....
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Old 01-10-2007, 11:21 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Re: Smoking

Since I fix and install heating and cooling equipment, I regularly have to check for carbon monoxide in the homes of my customers. I have found very unhealthy levels of carbon monoxide in the homes of smokers if there was someone smoking even one cigarette. I usually have to advise the customer not to smoke indoors at least a half hour before the test or I get a false reading.
I once nearly condemned a furnace due to several smokers upstairs having their second hand smoke drift down to the unit in the basement via the return air duct.
I don't have to guess at how unhealthy it is, I have the numbers to prove it.

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Old 01-12-2007, 09:19 AM   #34 (permalink)
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in my world, all the non smokers have to wear masks, to protect their itty bitty lungs from shrivelling up... "I dont want to be polluted by ur noxious smoke, cough, cough..." fine and dandy, but I don't want to suffer from ur car exhaust fumes and ur spent aircraft fuel smog either...

I'm also a fan of bare knuckle, but its no fun without elbows, biting and gouging...

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I don't have to guess at how unhealthy it is, I have the numbers to prove it.
Oh really?! I best quit smoking then! I wasn't aware of the numbers!!.... heh.
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Old 01-13-2007, 04:57 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Oh really?! I best quit smoking then! I wasn't aware of the numbers!!.... heh.
Seriously, I registered almost 20ppm once in a smokers house. You can look up what the effects of being in that kind of environment will do to you. Remember that Carbon monoxide tends to build up in the blood stream.
I use an SGA1 UEI Carbon Monixide detector capable of readings from 1ppm up to over 700ppm. On the newer models there is even a blow tube for customers to blow into to determing the CO readings in their blood. Smokers get blown away by just how much they have accumulated. Hey, I smoked for over 25years I understand addiction, but like I said, I got the numbers.

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Old 01-13-2007, 02:16 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Paladin, have you ever measured the CO content of the air surrounding the Denver Airport?
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Old 01-13-2007, 03:08 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Nope, but I do measure the outside air in some places just to get a differential. Here in Colorado Springs it can be up to 3ppm if there is heavy traffic but thats about all.

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Old 01-13-2007, 10:20 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Re: Smoking

Of course I also feel if smokers liked it so much they wouldn't exhale...

shame they do
i don't smoke because i'm just not tough enough. but as for fresh air i personally find perfumes, hairsprays deodorants, aftershave etc even more offensive than ciggy smoke. i think you'll find that they are as harmful if not more so. i think the worst type of pollution is personal (smoking, perfumes), followed by domestic (air fresheners,polish etc) and then atmospheric (car fumes, etc). to me you cant complain about smoke whilst living in and forcing me to when your near me a cloud of toxic chemicals like washing powders, deodorants etc. when you give up all these and your nose wakes up you are shocked at how much the whole population reeks.... jase
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Seriously, I registered almost 20ppm once in a smokers house. You can look up what the effects of being in that kind of environment will do to you. Remember that Carbon monoxide tends to build up in the blood stream.
I use an SGA1 UEI Carbon Monixide detector capable of readings from 1ppm up to over 700ppm. On the newer models there is even a blow tube for customers to blow into to determing the CO readings in their blood. Smokers get blown away by just how much they have accumulated. Hey, I smoked for over 25years I understand addiction, but like I said, I got the numbers.

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Sorry, I know you're being serious, but in all seriousness.. People who smoke are well aware of the dangers. But we STILL choose to do so... Airports? Nice one seattle.
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