Sexuality and Religion

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

Indeed my idea of what constitutes great beauty does seem at odds with many of my friends, perhaps there is an unexpressed portrait artist in me somewhere. Beauty is also a small part of what makes a woman 'attractive' to me. Far greater than beauty in that regard is their personality and intellect. A dumb woman with silicone enhanced cleavage does nothing for me. Tao

There's at least two of us, Tao.

s.

[Impqueen]

A handfasting is a pagan wedding.

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by Impqueen

A handfasting is a pagan wedding.

And I thot it was the goal you aimed for when joining w*****s anonymous!!

[Muslimwoman]

Originally Posted by China Cat Sunflower

I don't find hijab provocative. Hijab has the effect on me that I think is intended: I scan right past it. Look, I'm married. My number one priority is to stay married! Plus, I see people as people, not objects. I'm fully vested in that idea because I want to be the change.

Chris

Hi Chris

Well that was a really refreshing read, thank you and I am glad your aim is to stay married, not a popular western past time these days me thinks.

Salaam
Sally

[China Cat Sunflower]

Originally Posted by Muslimwoman

Hi Chris

Well that was a really refreshing read, thank you and I am glad your aim is to stay married, not a popular western past time these days me thinks.

Salaam
Sally

Oh, I don't know Sally. TV culture isn't real culture. People everywhere are really pretty decent.

Chris

[Muslimwoman]

Thank you for your replies guys, you may have actually restored a little of my faith in man. I agree Tao, a persons physical looks are only a small part of what makes them attractive or not. I mean, it's ok to go on a date with someone that is gorgeous but as thick as two short planks but after a few weeks I imagine it gets boring.

I agree the Burkha is an insult to women and the men should be made to wear them for 6 months, bet they would be banned before the end of week 2 (and it would only take that long out of stubbourness). The people I want to punch squarely on the nose are the idiot men that say women 'want' to wear them - who in their right mind wants to wear a blue sheet without armholes?? They remind me of cousin It in the adams family.

I am rather pleased to hear that women in hijab visually disappear, we just have to make sure our voices don't disappear with our looks.

One thing I find quite interesting but do not understand, is where the different attitudes come from. Men in the west see a beautiful wife as something to be proud of and shown off, whereas Muslim men want to keep that beauty for themselves and are proud of their wife when they cover in public (seeing it as an advert that they have a good wife). Is this difference, in how women are seen by their husbands, taught in our cultures? Where you taught that your wife/girlfriend dressed beautifully but provocatively is something to be proud of? Do you not get jealous when men drool over your lady?

[China Cat Sunflower]

I'm not possessive of my wife. She's a person in her own right. She can do whatever she wishes- not because I allow it, but because that's her right. Women dress up for each other. It's a pecking order thing. I think it's ridiculous, but what do I know?

Chris

[Muslimwoman]

Originally Posted by China Cat Sunflower

I'm not possessive of my wife. She's a person in her own right. She can do whatever she wishes- not because I allow it, but because that's her right. Women dress up for each other. It's a pecking order thing. I think it's ridiculous, but what do I know?

Chris

Silly me, I should know better than to ask guys questions, they never know the answer unless it's about football.

I fully accept that a womans body is her own - no I don't, I damned well demand that it is. However, doesn't the marriage/live together thing give you some rights to privacy of your partners body and who see's which parts of it? I don't mean for you to say how your wife dresses or she you but does it not make you feel more secure, more proud that your wife doesn't go out with her cleavage hanging out of her dress?

Just mentally exploring at the moment, not commenting on how any woman wishes to dress, if fish net stockings and mini skirts is your thing - I say go for it.

[Tao_Equus]

I think there is a lot in what Chris says. Women in the west are more independent, liberated and competitive. Much of the drive to look sexy is much less about being sexy for men than being sexier than the competition.

Tao

[China Cat Sunflower]

Oh, you want a straight answer? OK. My wife can wear anything she wants, but she's a little fat and stretched out here and there. You can't wear the tummy shirts if you ain't got the tummy. Well, you can, but the skinny girls will laugh at you!

Chris

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by China Cat Sunflower

Oh, you want a straight answer? OK. My wife can wear anything she wants, but she's a little fat and stretched out here and there. You can't wear the tummy shirts if you ain't got the tummy. Well, you can, but the skinny girls will laugh at you!

Chris

OMG!! Chris!! You trying to get a divorce already!!!

[China Cat Sunflower]

Hey man, pin me down and I'll always tell the truth! And, to tell the truth: isn't this whole female culture of skinny and young forever just so ridiculous? Thank the gods we men don't have to play that game. I have to work too hard, and I just don't have the time to worry about it. Fortunately, the other men aren't rating my boobs!

Chris

[Muslimwoman]

Erm, doesn't the stupid female "be skinny, be young" attitude come from the fact that so many husbands divorce their wives and marry a newer model??

I believe, that is also where the competition comes into it. I don't believe women really care whether another woman has better boobs than her, as long as her man doesn't think so! It's your (mens) fault, you have made us this way LOL

[China Cat Sunflower]

You know, there's got to be a distinction between what's sexually attractive in the opposite sex and what's just attractive from a non-sexual perspective. I like those little laugh lines that women get at the corner of their eyes after a certain age. I like a fresh face with no make-up. I like those UPS girls in their brown uniforms and dirty fingernails. I like a woman who can change her own tire.

Chris

[China Cat Sunflower]

Originally Posted by Muslimwoman

Erm, doesn't the stupid female "be skinny, be young" attitude come from the fact that so many husbands divorce their wives and marry a newer model??

I believe, that is also where the competition comes into it. I don't believe women really care whether another woman has better boobs than her, as long as her man doesn't think so! It's your (mens) fault, you have made us this way LOL

Nope. You have made yourselves this way because you all compete against and secretly hate each other. Sucks don't it?

Chris