Seriously...Who does Jesus think He is?

[cyberpi]

Originally Posted by Silas

Yes He did. He did the will of the Father and spoke in His attority, but He spoke of Himself. Note all of his "I am" statements. "I am the way, the good sheperd, the door," Etc.

Then per John 7:17, according to Jesus, the doctrine you teach, that Jesus taught, is NOT of God.

[Silas]

Originally Posted by cyberpi

Then per John 7:17, according to Jesus, the doctrine you teach, that Jesus taught, is NOT of God.

How did you come to that conclussion? Jesus is simply saying that if anyone desires to do the will of God, they will know if his [Jesus'], teaches are from God or not.

[mee]

Originally Posted by Silas

Once Jesus said:

"Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person's enemies will be those of his own household.Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And whoever does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me.Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it" (Mat 10:34-39).

Who do you say Jesus is?

the bible tells me that Jesus is Gods only begotten son John 3;16-17 and it is a fact that when a person is a true follower of Jesus it can make even family members act like our enemies, so the way i see it ,is that if a family member told me to not be a follower of Jesus and not to listen to what he taught , then it would be like they were fighting against me , so even though Jesus will bring peace to the earth eventually, because that is what the bible teaches,isaiah 9;6-7 it sometimes makes others angry when we stick to the bible and the teachings of Jesus.

[Silas]

Originally Posted by mee

the bible tells me that Jesus is Gods only begotten son John 3;16-17 and it is a fact that when a person is a true follower of Jesus it can make even family members act like our enemies, so the way i see it ,is that if a family member told me to not be a follower of Jesus and not to listen to what he taught , then it would be like they were fighting against me , so even though Jesus will bring peace to the earth eventually, because that is what the bible teaches,isaiah 9;6-7 it sometimes makes others angry when we stick to the bible and the teachings of Jesus.

So when are you going to call out to Jesus to save you? You do know that you cant have the Father unless you have the Son, right? Have you ever prayed to Jesus and asked him to be meciful and save you?

[mee]

Originally Posted by Silas

You do know that you cant have the Father unless you have the Son, right?

very true indeed, Gods purpose to bring peaceful and paradise conditions to the earth is all wrapped up in the ransom sacrifice of Jesus christ . and looking to the channel that Jesus is using in this time of the end is the way to go. matthew 24;45-47 i am glad to say i am following the channel that Jesus is directing. and it is very good indeed, because it is the way to everlasting life on a paradise earth . yes knowing who the true God is, and knowing who Jesus is leads to everlasting life John 17;3
What love Jesus showed in giving his life for us! Surely that should be a compelling force in our lives. Gratitude to Jesus for giving his life in our behalf should move us to zealous activity in proclaiming the good news of the salvation provided by Jehovah through his beloved Son. (John 3:16; compare Psalm 96:2.)

[Silas]

Originally Posted by mee

very true indeed, Gods purpose to bring peaceful and paradise conditions to the earth is all wrapped up in the ransom sacrifice of Jesus christ . and looking to the channel that Jesus is using in this time of the end is the way to go. matthew 24;45-47 i am glad to say i am following the channel that Jesus is directing. and it is very good indeed, because it is the way to everlasting life on a paradise earth . yes knowing who the true God is, and knowing who Jesus is leads to everlasting life John 17;3
What love Jesus showed in giving his life for us! Surely that should be a compelling force in our lives. Gratitude to Jesus for giving his life in our behalf should move us to zealous activity in proclaiming the good news of the salvation provided by Jehovah through his beloved Son. (John 3:16; compare Psalm 96:2.)

So have you called out to Jesus and prayed to him that you may know Him?

[mee]

Originally Posted by Silas

So have you called out to Jesus and prayed to him that you may know Him?

As Jehovah said ,
listen to him.
(Luke 9:35) And a voice came out of the cloud, saying: "This is my Son, the one that has been chosen. Listen to him." .......and this is what Jesus said,

"YOU must pray, then, this way:

"‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified.

(Psalm 83:18) That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You alone are the Most High over all the earth.

(Isaiah 42:8) "I am Jehovah. That is my name; and to no one else shall I give my own glory, neither my praise to graven images..............yes listening to Jesus leads us to the right way to pray .
Then he said to them: "Whenever YOU pray, say, ‘Father, let your name be sanctified. Let your kingdom come. luke 11;2
Jesus said: "When you pray, go into your private room and, after shutting your door, pray to your Father
When on earth Jesus himself prayed frequently to his heavenly Father, and he taught others to do likewise
Jesus did not teach us to pray to him; he gave us this model: "Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified."—Matthew 6:6, 9; 26:39, 42.

[Silas]

Originally Posted by mee

As Jehovah said ,
listen to him.
(Luke 9:35) And a voice came out of the cloud, saying: "This is my Son, the one that has been chosen. Listen to him." .......and this is what Jesus said,

"YOU must pray, then, this way:

"‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified.

(Psalm 83:18) That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You alone are the Most High over all the earth.

(Isaiah 42:8) "I am Jehovah. That is my name; and to no one else shall I give my own glory, neither my praise to graven images..............yes listening to Jesus leads us to the right way to pray .
Then he said to them: "Whenever YOU pray, say, ‘Father, let your name be sanctified. Let your kingdom come. luke 11;2
Jesus said: "When you pray, go into your private room and, after shutting your door, pray to your Father
When on earth Jesus himself prayed frequently to his heavenly Father, and he taught others to do likewise
Jesus did not teach us to pray to him; he gave us this model: "Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified."—Matthew 6:6, 9; 26:39, 42.

I think you have a point there Mee! Satan tempted Jesus once and said to Christ "worship me." Jesus responded, "You shall worship the Lord your God
and him only shall you serve." Is that what you're saying? Do you agree with that?

[mee]

Originally Posted by Silas

I think you have a point there Mee! Satan tempted Jesus once and said to Christ "worship me." Jesus responded, "You shall worship the Lord your God
and him only shall you serve." Is that what you're saying? Do you agree with that?

you asked me if i had prayed to Jesus , listening to Jesus is the way to go . and as the bible says , Jehovah is the hearer of prayer.
(Psalm 145:18) Jehovah is near to all those calling upon him, To all those who call upon him in trueness.

[Silas]

Originally Posted by mee

you asked me if i had prayed to Jesus , listening to Jesus is the way to go . and as the bible says , Jehovah is the hearer of prayer.
(Psalm 145:18) Jehovah is near to all those calling upon him, To all those who call upon him in trueness.

Like I said: I think you have a point there Mee! Satan tempted Jesus once and said to Christ "worship me." Jesus responded, "You shall worship the Lord your Godand him only shall you serve." Is that what you're saying? Do you agree with that statement?

[mee]

Originally Posted by Silas

Like I said: I think you have a point there Mee! Satan tempted Jesus once and said to Christ "worship me." Jesus responded, "You shall worship the Lord your Godand him only shall you serve." Is that what you're saying? Do you agree with that statement?

i always agree with the bible .

[Silas]

Originally Posted by Silas
Like I said: I think you have a point there Mee! Satan tempted Jesus once and said to Christ "worship me." Jesus responded, "You shall worship the Lord your Godand him only shall you serve." Is that what you're saying? Do you agree with that statement?

Originally Posted by mee

i always agree with the bible .

Interesting! So in the book of Hebrews, chapt 1, where God the Father tells the angels to worship God the Son [Jesus], you agree that we ought to worship the Christ? Moreover, when God the Father said of Jesus,

"Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom."

you agree that He was addressed by God as God (Psa 45:6)? Please stick to the subject in your answer. Please!

[mee]

Originally Posted by Silas

Interesting! So in the book of Hebrews, chapt 1, where God the Father tells the angels to worship God the Son [Jesus], you agree that we ought to worship the Christ? Moreover, when God the Father said of Jesus,

"Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom."

you agree that He was addressed by God as God (Psa 45:6)? Please stick to the subject in your answer. Please!

there is no salvation in anyone else is there? Jesus plays a very big part in the outworking of Jehovah Gods purpose for the earth.

(Acts 4:12) Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is not another name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved."

(Philippians 2:9) For this very reason also GOD exalted him to a superior
position and kindly gave him the name that is above every [other] name,

(John 14:6) Jesus said to him: "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

(1 Timothy 2:5) For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus,................Yes Jesus is the one that Jehovah is using to be the king of His (Jehovahs) heavenly kingdom goverment Daniel 2;44. and Jesus is now a reigning king because Jesus has been given the kingship .daniel 7;13-14 its all happening in these the last days. i have my symbolic palm branch in my hand to welcome this now reigning king , and his father Jehovah God . revelation 7;9-10 yes Gods kingdom will last forever .

God is your throne

(Or, "Your throne is of God; Your throne of God is.")

to time indefinite, even forever;

The scepter of your kingship is a scepter of uprightness.psalm 45;6
(Hebrews 1:8) But with reference to the Son: "God is your throne forever and ever, and [the] scepter of your
"(Your," ADItVgSyh,p and Ps 45:6; P46אB, "his.")
kingdom is the scepter of uprightness.

(Matthew 28:18) And Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: "All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth.

(Acts 2:30) Therefore, because he was a prophet and knew that God had sworn to him with an oath that he would seat one from the fruitage of his loins upon his throne,

(Revelation 3:21) To the one that conquers I will grant to sit down with me on my throne, even as I conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne......................yes Jesus is the one that Jehovah is using , isnt it great that things are now well along in this time of the end , there is no salvation in anyone else but Gods son Jesus christ.

For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting lifeJohn 3;16
For God sent forth his Son into the world, not for him to judge the world, but for the world to be saved through him. He that exercises faith in him is not to be judged. He that does not exercise faith has been judged already, because he has not exercised faith in the name of the only-begotten Son of God John 3;17-18

[Silas]

Originally Posted by mee

there is no salvation in anyone else is there? Jesus plays a very big part in the outworking of Jehovah Gods purpose for the earth.

(Acts 4:12) Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is not another name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved."

(Philippians 2:9) For this very reason also GOD exalted him to a superior
position and kindly gave him the name that is above every [other] name,

(John 14:6) Jesus said to him: "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

(1 Timothy 2:5) For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus,................Yes Jesus is the one that Jehovah is using to be the king of His (Jehovahs) heavenly kingdom goverment Daniel 2;44. and Jesus is now a reigning king because Jesus has been given the kingship .daniel 7;13-14 its all happening in these the last days. i have my symbolic palm branch in my hand to welcome this now reigning king , and his father Jehovah God . revelation 7;9-10 yes Gods kingdom will last forever .

God is your throne

(Or, "Your throne is of God; Your throne of God is.")

to time indefinite, even forever;

The scepter of your kingship is a scepter of uprightness.psalm 45;6
(Hebrews 1:8) But with reference to the Son: "God is your throne forever and ever, and [the] scepter of your
"(Your," ADItVgSyh,p and Ps 45:6; P46אB, "his.")
kingdom is the scepter of uprightness.

(Matthew 28:18) And Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: "All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth.

(Acts 2:30) Therefore, because he was a prophet and knew that God had sworn to him with an oath that he would seat one from the fruitage of his loins upon his throne,

(Revelation 3:21) To the one that conquers I will grant to sit down with me on my throne, even as I conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne......................yes Jesus is the one that Jehovah is using , isnt it great that things are now well along in this time of the end , there is no salvation in anyone else but Gods son Jesus christ.

For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting lifeJohn 3;16
For God sent forth his Son into the world, not for him to judge the world, but for the world to be saved through him. He that exercises faith in him is not to be judged. He that does not exercise faith has been judged already, because he has not exercised faith in the name of the only-begotten Son of God John 3;17-18

These are my emotions after reading what you said: Do you even realize when you are wrong? Mee, who is Psa 45:6 talking about? Also, how many Gods (big G's) are there?

[mee]

Originally Posted by Silas

These are my emotions after reading what you said: Do you even realize when you are wrong? Mee, who is Psa 45:6 talking about? Also, how many Gods (big G's) are there?

the whole psalm was prophetic. By studying it we shall gain information as to what God’s anointed king will do for God’s glory and man’s lasting happiness.
In Hebrews 1:8, 9 the apostle Paul quotes Psalm 45:6, 7 and applies the words to the Son of God, Jesus Christ