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Old 07-29-2007, 11:33 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Never heard of this stuff but being the gullible type I just got a jar. All I can report so far is it tastes fabulous. Apparantly there's a guy making similar stuff from a hivery (???!!) in Derbyshire, where he only heats the honey up to the temperature of the hive, to protect the wondrous properties of it. My local shop keeper swears by it.

On the detox front, I'm off the caffeinated coffee and wine. Next stop: when the decaff runs out...no more coffee. So far insanity has not set in. But we'll see......

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Why are you giving up wine? Red wine is very healthy.

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Old 07-30-2007, 05:00 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Why are you giving up wine? Red wine is very healthy.

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Hee, hee, it's the red grapes that are good for you not the wine You get more health benefits from eating red grapes than drinking it as wine - sorry to burst your bubble.

How did you give up smoking? I am a heavy smoker and don't try to give up because I don't think I want to enough but my brain always says "for a clever woman you are really, really stupid - put that fag out".

As for your few extra pounds, sorry but I think guys look better with a little meat on them, am rather fond of a round tummy, makes a man look more 'homey' somehow.


Congrats on the caffeine Snoopy, it will take a while but I bet you start to see a difference soon.

8 days of detox - my flabber is gastered, well done. Am seriously thinking of joining you as soon as I get my bloody tests back next week.


General note - will people please stop saying they don't really put on weight, some of us were not born with such friendly genes and you are depressing the hell out of me.
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Old 07-30-2007, 12:57 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Hee, hee, it's the red grapes that are good for you not the wine You get more health benefits from eating red grapes than drinking it as wine - sorry to burst your bubble.
Well I know which is better for me

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How did you give up smoking? I am a heavy smoker and don't try to give up because I don't think I want to enough but my brain always says "for a clever woman you are really, really stupid - put that fag out".

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To be honest I have found it very easy, easier than I anticipated. There is one reason and one reason only for this. I was ready to stop. Without being mentally prepared for it I think you cannot kick the habit. I had a last smoke 1 day in march, a decent cigar, and then used patches for 1 week. After day 3 the 'sweats' gave way to mental craving. Then its just the will to say no. Tho in truth I have replaced cigs with polos, still use a couple of tubes a day. The very best thing is my flat always smells nice now

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Old 07-30-2007, 04:56 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Why are you giving up wine? Red wine is very healthy.

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Cutting down on the fermented grape cos I think it's not good for the mind; nothing to do with the body. May well have an occasional real coffee or glass of wine, but not as a regular thing (at least that's my intention!).

Detox update: chucked the decaff away as it is clearly just roasted sand.

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Old 07-30-2007, 05:32 PM   #35 (permalink)
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8 days of detox - my flabber is gastered, well done. Am seriously thinking of joining you as soon as I get my bloody tests back next week.
Heck, even I'm not counting the days!

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Old 07-31-2007, 06:07 AM   #36 (permalink)
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To be honest I have found it very easy, easier than I anticipated. There is one reason and one reason only for this. I was ready to stop. Without being mentally prepared for it I think you cannot kick the habit.
I am really glad it worked for you. I gave up a few years ago for 9 whole months and boy did life smell better. Just never think that "just the one" is ok, that was my slippery slope. I had one at an Xmas party and sure enough it was just one and the next day I stopped again. Until the next Xmas part where I had 3 and on it went.
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Old 08-01-2007, 04:16 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Vindicated!!

It wasn't long ago when coffee was linked to heart disease, osteoporosis, infertility and pancreatic cancer. Now research suggests that if you drink enough of it, you'll lower the risk of developing Type 2 diabetes, heart disease, asthma, gallstones, Parkinson's disease, liver cancer and possibly colon cancer. And you'll feel more alert and work out harder at the gym.globeandmail.com: A cup of joe does more good than harm
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Old 08-01-2007, 08:00 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I guess it's all things in moderation (except maybe Class A drugs). Which is what I shall probably settle on (the moderation, not the drugs...)

Every day one can read that X is good for you; X is bad for you. Tis very confusing. I think I'll stick with what you can trust - McDonalds.

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Old 08-02-2007, 02:14 PM   #39 (permalink)
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As in the "McDevil you know, s?"
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Old 08-02-2007, 03:09 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Long, l-o-o-n-g ago (or maybe not that long ago, actually) there was a more common knowledge of the assets of such things as burdock root, willow bark, juniper berries, etc. One needed no prescription, only the knowledge--and much of it was right there in the recipe book at home. The ingredients were there in the garden or in the woods not too far away. The average man or woman was a scientist, in a way. This, of course, was before one needed a piece of paper to either to prove one's proficiency or to assure the legality of a prescription. It was before religion and superstition began to suggest that people with this knowledge were either sages or witches. And it was long before big pharmaceutical companies were nearly solely in control of these fruits of nature. It was also before the "health food" and vitamin industry began to put dangerous concentrations into capsules and push the idea that the more "mega" the dose, the more benefits.

Of course, it was also a time when the average person was often a "guinea pig" at his or her own hand. But, as Snoopy pointed out, the health and medical community still fluctuates on almost a daily basis as to what is beneficial and what is not. Take the incredible, edible egg, for example. How many times have we heard one thing and then another, only to start it all over again?

Ideally, homeopathy is about balance. It is about more than what to (or what not to) consume through one's digestive system. But homeopathy, like anything else, is subject to manipulation for the sake of a dollar. And I'm not knocking the modern day scientist, but there are talented and knowledgeable folks in every area of life who don't have official degrees.

It is disappointing to me in a very real way that so many doctors are not allowed to discuss "alternative" remedies, or feel so vulnerable to litigation that they just avoid the subject. I am in a position to know that homeopathy is more respected by much of the medical community than the average patient is aware. I cannot help but wish that there was more of a balanced approach to all this.

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Old 08-02-2007, 03:25 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Good post, couldn't agree more.
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Old 08-02-2007, 03:35 PM   #42 (permalink)
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It is disappointing to me in a very real way that so many doctors are not allowed to discuss "alternative" remedies, or feel so vulnerable to litigation that they just avoid the subject. I am in a position to know that homeopathy is more respected by much of the medical community than the average patient is aware. I cannot help but wish that there was more of a balanced approach to all this.

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salaam InLove habibty

A few years ago I watched a documentary about children suffering from very severe skin conditions, the poor little things had cracked bleeding skin all over their body. They were being treated by Great Ormond St hospital and some had agreed, under medical supervision to try Chinese herbal medicine/remedies. Within 3 months of starting the Chinese remedy these children had remarkable improvements. You could see the poor specialist at the hospital desperate to say what he wanted to but obviously could not. He had to say what remarkable results they were but were not backed by medical 'proofs' and therefore could not be recommended as a treatment. You should have seen these children, some had up to 90% improvement in skin condition and to be honest I cried, I was so happy their suffering had been eased. I can imagine it frustrates the hell out of doctors and nurses.

Another example was 4 weeks ago, I went to the doctor with an oral infection. I swilled my mouth with this hideous liquid for 2 weeks with no improvement. Then a week later a nurse told me to suck on fresh pineapple, as it has a particular acid that combats fungal infection. I swear to G-d, in 48 hours my problem was gone. Just show you how nature provides a cure for everything.

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I hope the funguy in your mouth was your hubby !!!

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I hope the funguy in your mouth was your hubby !!!

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LMAO. You are so naughty. I wish it was
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You could see the poor specialist at the hospital desperate to say what he wanted to but obviously could not. He had to say what remarkable results they were but were not backed by medical 'proofs' and therefore could not be recommended as a treatment.
I can't help but wonder what situations like this really say about our contemporary society as a whole, primarily but not so limited anymore to "western" cultures. I hear the blame so often being laid at the foot of the doctors, but I don't totally accept this. Sure, there are those in the medical profession who are in it just for the money--and these are the ones who could give a hoot about (or who actively suppress) the possible and often time-tested benefits of what is now considered "alternative" treatment. But I believe there are many in the medical community who struggle more and more every day with the imaginary wall that has been erected over time between the two schools of thought. I see real anguish on the faces of some of my own doctors, who because of the separation of training methods, wish they could tell me more. I ask about things they simply cannot comment much on, not, as one recently stated, because they don't think there are benefits or because they don't believe, but because the constraints placed upon their research and funding just don't allow for it. In other words, if they go around speculating out loud about these things (some of which are even considered illegal here), the powers that be might see fit to transfer them to some place where it won't reflect negatively on themselves or their constituents. The most I have been able to extract from the willing has been a recommendation to visit my local Buddhist temple. And I am by no means knocking that--I was already headed in that direction. I just think that they ought to be able to study and practice a wider range of therapies without being ostracized and penalized for it.

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