Saudi Marriage 'Expert' Advises Men in 'Right Way' to Beat Their Wives

[wil]

FOX News - Friday, November 02, 2007

Move over, Dr. Phil, there's a new relationship expert in town. He's Saudi author and cleric, "Dr." Muhammad Al-'Arifi, who in a remarkable segment broadcast on Saudi and Kuwaiti television in September, counseled young Muslim men on how to treat their wives.
"Admonish them – once, twice, three times, four times, ten times," he advised. "If this doesn't help, refuse to share their beds."
And if that doesn't work?
"Beat them," one of his three young advisees responded.
"That's right," Al-'Arifi said.
Click here to view the segment at MEMRITV.org
He goes on to calmly explain to the young men that hitting their future wives in the face is a no-no.
"Beating in the face is forbidden, even when it comes to animals," he explained. "Even if you want your camel or donkey to start walking, you are not allowed to beat it in the face. If this is true for animals, it is all the more true when it comes to humans. So beatings should be light and not in the face."
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His final words of wisdom?
"Woman, it has gone too far. I can't bear it anymore," he tells the men to tell their wives. "If he beats her, the beatings must be light and must not make her face ugly.
"He must beat her where it will not leave marks. He should not beat her on the hand... He should beat her in some places where it will not cause any damage. He should not beat her like he would beat an animal or a child -- slapping them right and left.
"Unfortunately, many husbands beat their wives only when they get mad, and when they start beating, it as if they are punching a wall – they beat with their hands, right and left, and sometimes use their feet. Brother, it is a human being you are beating. This is forbidden. He must not do this."
Take that, Match.com!

[Francis king]

lol, yes, it is prescribed in Islam that you are entitled to beat your wife, lightly, if she does not do as she is told...

great!

[farhan]

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[Francis king]

oh, and to be fair.,.. in the bible, women are of no more value than cattle...

[greymare]

ok, ok here is where I am an expert. Lets just say that this fool has to go to sleep sometime, baby and when he does, I wouldnt be surprised if he woke up with an knife across his throat.
What makes me an expert??? Brother, I could write a book abut you wouldnt believe me anyway. Yes, you can Break an animal by this kind of treatment and it happens all the time but one day or night after inflicting this kind of treatment on said wife remember you may never wake up.
Because I havent got a penis makes me a lesser person.?? CRAP. And I say bring it on mate if youve got the guts to try it. (this message is to all the previous believers of the crap mentioned by mahommed al alrifi.

[greymare]

I apologise to all (except the wife beaters) but this kind of stuff really makes my blood boil

[China Cat Sunflower]

Do we have any reliable statistics on spousal abuse in Islamic countries versus western?

Chris

[greymare]

I dont know about islamic countries, but here in Australia the average is about 4 out of every 10 women experience abuse. Its appauling. (dont know if my spelling is correct but you get my drift)

[Pathless]

Now I'm not certain, but I think that if you ask most Muslims, they would disagree with this Saudi Dr. Phil. I'm not completely sure, but I don't think that the Koran urges men to beat their wives--well, at least not any more than the Bible does. At any rate, Dr. Phil in any culture is not the kind of person to seek advice from. Sure, he may be charismatic in a tough-guy way, and he may be a little better than Jerry Springer, but he's still Dr. Phil.

I'm looking forward to Muslimwoman's response to this one.

[17th Angel]

LOL "single Muslim".com See that advert on this thread? By the looks of it, if your a female keep it that way... Better for your health....

[wil]

Originally Posted by Francis king

oh, and to be fair.,.. in the bible, women are of no more value than cattle...

Namaste Farhan,

Yes it is written, but no preacher stands up and says it, they all have grown and moved on. Any preacher who did would be decried by the masses.

Exactly what I was looking for in my post. I am in no way denigrating your religion, I wanted your comment and discussion on this topic.

I expected you refute it, to come out and say this guy is a lunatic, there is no way we believe this is proper...we have grown.

But to my surprise no denial? 56 views on the Islamic board...two posts by you and no denial? The silence and your comparison to Christian literature indicates agreement?

[Pathless]

Originally Posted by wil

Namaste Farhan,

...

I expected you refute it, to come out and say this guy is a lunatic, there is no way we believe this is proper...we have grown.

But to my surprise no denial? 56 views on the Islamic board...two posts by you and no denial? The silence and your comparison to Christian literature indicates agreement?

Wil, look at who you quoted. It isn't Farhan.

[wil]

Originally Posted by Pathless

Wil, look at who you quoted. It isn't Farhan.

yikes, my bad, but it appears my thought still stands.

Originally Posted by farhan

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[17th Angel]

Originally Posted by wil

The silence and your comparison to Christian literature indicates agreement?

Originally Posted by Pathless

Wil, look at who you quoted. It isn't Farhan.

Was going to say... You can obviously see there is a mistake he quoted Francis yet used the word silence..... That is an impossible mathematical equation :\

[Pathless]

Originally Posted by 17th Angel

Was going to say... You can obviously see there is a mistake he quoted Francis yet used the word silence..... That is an impossible mathematical equation :\

tee-hee