resurrection

[mee]

Mans real hope is the resurrection,the coming forth of the dead to an earth restored to paradise conditions. those who have served God will be blessed for their faithfulness. those who have died without finding God will have the opportunity then. thus,there is going to be a resurrection of both the rightous and the unrightous.(acts 24;15)only those whom God judges unworthy will not recieve a resurrection. wow a resurrection on the earth ,and not in heaven for the most of us . man was made for the earth would you not agree?

[JJM]

Originally Posted by mee

Mans real hope is the resurrection,the coming forth of the dead to an earth restored to paradise conditions. those who have served God will be blessed for their faithfulness. those who have died without finding God will have the opportunity then. thus,there is going to be a resurrection of both the rightous and the unrightous.(acts 24;15)only those whom God judges unworthy will not recieve a resurrection. wow a resurrection on the earth ,and not in heaven for the most of us . man was made for the earth would you not agree?

Yes I'd agree that man is made for earth but I'd think that all are resurrected not just those God deems worthy and that in the end heaven and earth will be united.

[mee]

Originally Posted by JJM

Yes I'd agree that man is made for earth but I'd think that all are resurrected not just those God deems worthy and that in the end heaven and earth will be united.

those in Gods memory will be resurrected john5;28-29

[JJM]

Originally Posted by mee

those in Gods memory will be resurrected john5;28-29

you mean :"Wonder not at this: for the hour cometh wherein all that are in the graves shall hear the voice of the Son of God.

And they that have done good things shall come forth unto the resurrection of life: but they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of judgment."

[Bandit]

my hope is in the resurrection too!

& yes i believe all things will be restored & we will live forever on the earth. heaven & earth will be like one thing all combined together. cant explain that but yes i believe.

[mee]

Originally Posted by JJM

you mean :"Wonder not at this: for the hour cometh wherein all that are in the graves shall hear the voice of the Son of God.

And they that have done good things shall come forth unto the resurrection of life: but they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of judgment."

The word ta´phos (grave) gives emphasis to the idea of burial, the words mne´ma (tomb) and mne·mei´on (memorial tomb) lay stress on the thought of preserving the memory of the deceased person this is the words used in John 5;28-29

In view of the underlying thought of remembrance associated with mne·mei´on, the use of this word (rather than ta´phos) at John 5:28 with regard to the resurrection of "all those in the memorial tombs" seems particularly appropriate

The basic idea of remembrance involved in the original Greek words for "tomb" or "memorial tomb" also gives added meaning to the plea of the thief impaled alongside Jesus to "remember me when you get into your kingdom."—Lu 23:42

yes Jehovah has a book of remembrance
At that time those in fear of Jehovah spoke with one another, each one with his companion, and Jehovah kept paying attention and listening. And a book of remembrance began to be written up before him for those in fear of Jehovah and for those thinking upon his name (malachi 3;16)

[mee]

Jesus indicated that not everyone would be resurrected. He was replying to a sly question put to him by the Sadducees, who believed that nobody would be resurrected. He spoke of "those who have been counted worthy of gaining that system of things and the resurrection from the dead." (Luke 20:35) His words imply that not all will have proved worthy of being resurrected in God’s promised new system of things.

[JJM]

So are you implying some will be worthy of resurrection purely for the sake of eternal damnation and some won't be worthy of it at all.

[mee]

Originally Posted by JJM

So are you implying some will be worthy of resurrection purely for the sake of eternal damnation and some won't be worthy of it at all.

the bible tells us those whom God resurrects will have the chance to live forever .those who God chooses not to resurrect will just be dust .in other words they are dead .eternal damnation is not a bible teaching .it is a case of life or death thats all.

[JJM]

Originally Posted by mee

the bible tells us those whom God resurrects will have the chance to live forever .those who God chooses not to resurrect will just be dust .in other words they are dead .eternal damnation is not a bible teaching .it is a case of life or death thats all.

so what do you consider the "resurrection of judgment"

[mee]

Originally Posted by JJM

so what do you consider the "resurrection of judgment"

the wages sin pays is death (romans 6;23) so any who are remembered by Jehovah God will be judged on how they live their lives on the earth from the time after their resurrection.but if they choose to be rebellious and oppose the rules ,then they will get the second death, the second death is a death with no hope of a resurrection so the judgement starts after they are resurrected
"Dust you are and to dust you will return."—GENESIS 3:19

[JJM]

Originally Posted by mee

the wages sin pays is death (romans 6;23) so any who are remembered by Jehovah God will be judged on how they live their lives on the earth from the time after their resurrection.but if they choose to be rebellious and oppose the rules ,then they will get the second death, the second death is a death with no hope of a resurrection so the judgement starts after they are resurrected
"Dust you are and to dust you will return."—GENESIS 3:19

Why would God remember someone if he was going to judge them to the second death but still leave some people unremembered if he would do nothing but judge them to the second death too? Why judge some to the second death when not remembering them would just leave them in the same place if he’s not going to do it for everyone?

[mee]

Originally Posted by JJM

Why would God remember someone if he was going to judge them to the second death but still leave some people unremembered if he would do nothing but judge them to the second death too? Why judge some to the second death when not remembering them would just leave them in the same place if he’s not going to do it for everyone?

because he must have already judged them unworthy of a resurrection . he reads hearts remember ,those who he does resurrect may choose to follow the rules then the second death would not apply but everlasting life would.

[JJM]

Originally Posted by mee

because he must have already judged them unworthy of a resurrection . he reads hearts remember ,those who he does resurrect may choose to follow the rules then the second death would not apply but everlasting life would.

so the people who he judges worthy of resurrection will not only have the capability of sin but will also use it. and then when they do they will die again.

[Quahom1]

Two distinctly different concepts of resurrection from two faiths that do not have a whole lot in common (other than Jesus is Lord and savior). Let's remember that, and not get too involved or hot under the collar, in the nuts and bolts of this thread.

"I believe..." usually stems off the feeling of an accusative coming on.

v/r

Q