Reason to 'invade' Myanmar?

[wil]

Should someone go to the UN over Burma?

Insist on actions against the state?

At a minimum carpet bombing of relief supplies?

Tricky stuff. A hundred thousand dead, 1-2 million in peril, if someone reacts against a regime which has been an issue for decades how will the world react to the force which goes in to 'fix' the situation?

Now I'm not, have not been in favor of the Iraq situation. But I can draw some parallels. Saddam killed millions of his own people, tortured and ruled with an iron fist millions more. Than Shwe has been at odds with human rights violations for years and by proxy is now killing his own people by not allowing aid and aid workers.

In Iraq when 'we' took out the head of power and the civil war/power struggle between Kurds, Shia and Sunni which has been largely quelled, we now have Shia power (who haven't ruled for 500 years) so there is an internal conflict between two factions over this...

If "we" (whoever) were to go into Myanmar, in order to assist those starving, dying, rid disease etc. And encounter resistence from the junta...who knows what would happen.

Interesting tidbit...reports say the regime which is refusing aid assistance has told its factories what to begin producing, its distributors what to begin moving, and its suppliers to provide all aid AT COST. So maybe more is being done internally than we know of??

damned if you do, damned if you don't, I can just say I am glad I don't make these kind of decisions!

[Alex P]

Originally Posted by wil

Now I'm not, have not been in favor of the Iraq situation. But I can draw some parallels.

Take the head away, you have killed the snake... But, there are many more than just one snake in the world, many more. Another will simply replace that snake time and time again.

[Snoopy]

At least the governments of the region appreciate the urgency of the catastrophe.

s.


“The Association of South East Asian Nations is due to meet on Monday, with plans for an aid donors' conference likely to be discussed.”

- BBC NEWS | Politics | Burma 'guilty of inhuman action'

[greymare]

i wonder why "we" dont have the same sense of urgency to help these victims of this natural disaster as we do to take over the oil fields etc.
or am I being too blunt

[Alex P]

Originally Posted by greymare

i wonder why "we" dont have the same sense of urgency to help these victims of this natural disaster as we do to take over the oil fields etc.
or am I being too blunt

The wrong motivation.

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by greymare

am I being too blunt

How could you be, given the disaster?

Hey George I hear the delta is a hot bed of al-qaeda and is awash not only with blood but with oil.

s.


- IRC | Myanmar Disaster

[juantoo3]

Originally Posted by greymare

i wonder why "we" dont have the same sense of urgency to help these victims of this natural disaster as we do to take over the oil fields etc.
or am I being too blunt

At the risk of seeming the Devil's advocate, let us not forget there was quite a long run up prior to this Iraq incursion, beginning back in the previous administration. Of course, that is usually forgotten when it is convenient.

I pray whatever action is taken, by whoever is going to take it, provided the government is cooperative and appreciates the assistance; happens *much, much* sooner than it took leading up to the current Iraq situation. Otherwise, there will be a whole lot of needless suffering and death.

There is a difference between a New York hurry and a Chinese hurry; the people of Burma need help in a New York hurry, Iraq was invaded in a Chinese hurry.

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by juantoo3

At the risk of seeming the Devil's advocate, let us not forget there was quite a long run up prior to this Iraq incursion, beginning back in the previous administration. Of course, that is usually forgotten when it is convenient.

Come now, you have to go Juan, too, 3 administrations back..... to Papa Bush. Dont try and lay it at the door of Clinton. Under Bill Clinton most of the world was actually beginning to respect the USA, no Bush has ever come close to that.


Tao

[juantoo3]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

Come now, you have to go Juan, too, 3 administrations back..... to Papa Bush. Dont try and lay it at the door of Clinton. Under Bill Clinton most of the world was actually beginning to respect the USA, no Bush has ever come close to that.

I still respect my vow, Tao. You will not seduce me into such a discussion.

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by juantoo3

I still respect my vow, Tao. You will not seduce me into such a discussion.

Sometimes saying nothing says everything

[cyberpi]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

Sometimes saying nothing says everything

Only when you employ the evil of assumption and assertion.

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by cyberpi

Only when you employ the evil of assumption and assertion.

False. And that is a darkly assuming assertion!!

[cyberpi]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

False. And that is a darkly assuming assertion!!

Did I conjure something from nothing?

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by cyberpi

Did I conjure something from nothing?

It would not be the first time

[cyberpi]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

It would not be the first time

True. If you say nothing, then where shall I obtain the everything from? Would you be truly or correctly represented by others in the absence of your words?