Re-evaluating Walled Garden approach

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by Dor

Let everyone post everything anywhere but let people in that forum call a spade a spade.

oooo-err will we be issued with blanks or live ammunition?

[Dor]

Originally Posted by Snoopy

oooo-err will we be issued with blanks or live ammunition?

Hey I didnt ask for guns or bullets. Just the ability to tell people they are wrong or they are passing off garbage. Only ammo I need is my handy dandy pocket KJV bible to thump on.

[China Cat Sunflower]

Originally Posted by Dor

People show real fast if they are seriously asking or causing trouble.
Let everyone post everything anywhere but let people in that forum call a spade a spade.

There you go!

It's all well and good to be makey nicey, but wouldn't you rather people be real? I would. I'd rather knock the varnish off and see what's really there. With that in mind, I don't see why Bible thumpers shouldn't Bible thump. That's real. I expect it.

Chris

[lunamoth]

Originally Posted by China Cat Sunflower

There you go!

It's all well and good to be makey nicey, but wouldn't you rather people be real? I would. I'd rather knock the varnish off and see what's really there. With that in mind, I don't see why Bible thumpers shouldn't Bible thump. That's real. I expect it.

Chris

The staff here have never stopped anyone from thumping their Bible if that is their style.

In my understanding, the gardens are not to keep viewpoints or opinions seperate (or out!) but to organize topics for discussion.

Reasonably good manners and avoiding personal attacks are expected in all the boards here.

2 c,
luna

[Prober]

Originally Posted by lunamoth

The staff here have never stopped anyone from thumping their Bible if that is their style.

In my understanding, the gardens are not to keep viewpoints or opinions seperate (or out!) but to organize topics for discussion.

Reasonably good manners and avoiding personal attacks are expected in all the boards here.

2 c,
luna

After recently examining several other sites, I can see how much more organized this one is. It really does make it easier to find topics.

Other than for that point, I wouldn't care...

[Dor]

Originally Posted by lunamoth

The staff here have never stopped anyone from thumping their Bible if that is their style.

In my understanding, the gardens are not to keep viewpoints or opinions seperate (or out!) but to organize topics for discussion.

Reasonably good manners and avoiding personal attacks are expected in all the boards here.

2 c,
luna

I would have to disagree with this I can give a list of names but I dont think I really need to anyone can go back throught the Christianity board.

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by China Cat Sunflower

It's all well and good to be makey nicey, but wouldn't you rather people be real? I would. I'd rather knock the varnish off and see what's really there. Chris

Hi Chris,

Are real and makey nicey mutually exclusive? Can a person be real and makey nicey, not needing anything knocking off?

s.

[lunamoth]

Originally Posted by Dor

I would have to disagree with this I can give a list of names but I dont think I really need to anyone can go back throught the Christianity board.

I was referring to the staff here, the mods. I've not seen it but maybe you mean me?

Added in edit: unless you are referring to the fact that no one is supposed to just post long passages from anywhere (Bible included) or make posts that amount to just a link to another site. I've not seen that being an issue lately either, though

[China Cat Sunflower]

Originally Posted by Snoopy

Hi Chris,

Are real and makey nicey mutually exclusive? Can a person be real and makey nicey, not needing anything knocking off?

s.

Well, maybe without the makey part, eh?

My main point was that I don't understand people being shocked that a Bible thumper would thump. That's what they do. It doesn't bother me, I expect it. Many people here are genuinely nice, that's real too. I'm not one of them, but...

Chris

[seattlegal]

Originally Posted by lunamoth

I was referring to the staff here, the mods. I've not seen it but maybe you mean me?

Added in edit: unless you are referring to the fact that no one is supposed to just post long passages from anywhere (Bible included) or make posts that amount to just a link to another site. I've not seen that being an issue lately either, though

I'm guilty of this! However, not in the sense of spamming, I hope!
{I try to employ an economy of words whenever possible, and let the scriptures speak for themselves.}

[lunamoth]

Originally Posted by seattlegal

I'm guilty of this! However, not in the sense of spamming, I hope!
{I try to employ an economy of words whenever possible, and let the scriptures speak for themselves.}

It's a balance seattlegal. Links are allowed of course, especially when you make a short quote from somewhere else and want to reference it. Long cut & paste is a no-no in general, and posts that amount to links with little or no relevance or discussion are also a no no. Links to hate sites or prosyletizing sites also a no no. A little of this the mods would probably let go. A lot of it will get a warning. I've not seen you do any of those things.

[cyberpi]

It might require thinking outside the box, but I submit that in the ambiguity there are real differences between people in the interpretation of what a garden is:

What is a garden?
1. A religion.
2. A sect or denomination.
3. A place like a church, synagogue, mosque, etc...
3. A group of people conversing.
4. A sub-forum.
5. A place for gardeners to plant.
6. A place for people to learn about plants.
7. A place for people to learn about weeds and plants.
8. A place for people to be fixed or converted.
9. A place to admire plants.
10. A place to admire gardeners.

What is a gardener?
1. A person that makes a thread.
2. A person that posts.
3. A person that resembles the traits, characteristics, or practices described in a religion.
4. A person that posts something about the traits, characteristics, or practices described in a religion.
5. A person that weeds out posts.
6 A person that weeds out people.
7. A person that posts plants instead of weeds.
8. A person that converted you.
9. A person that loves you.
10. God

What is a plant?
1. A kind of topic.
2. A kind of post.
3. A kind of person.
4. Someone else's weed.
5. Something that makes people feel good.
6. Something that produces fruit.
7. Something that is on topic.
8. What the majority following a religion thinks a plant is.
9. What the majority posting in a sub-forum thinks a plant is.
10. What the moderator thinks a plant is.

What is a weed?
1. A kind of topic.
2. A kind of post.
3. A kind of person.
4. A plant.
5. Something that does not make people feel good.
6. Something that does not produce fruit.
7. Something that conflicts with plants.
8. What the majority following a religion thinks a weed is.
9. What the majority posting in a sub-forum thinks a weed is.
10. What the moderator thinks a weed is.

What is a bible thumper?
1. A person that thumps the bible.
2. A person that thumps other people with a bible.
3. A person that posts a particular type of post.
4. A person that has a strong opinion.
5. A person that tries to judge or separate sheep from goats per the bible.
6. A person that tries to judge weeds from plants per the bible.
7. A person that provides bible verses.
8. A person that says the bible is a book written by the creator.
9. A person that says the bible is the only book written by the creator.
10. A person that says Jesus is God or part of a Trinity.

In the vagueness, the ambiguity, or the metaphor... in the fact that some concepts or parables are already cemented differently for adherents of a particular religion... I see a source of conflict.

Who or what are the walls trying to separate... People? Religions? Forum topics? Perhaps greater clarity by breaking down the task:
1. who or what defines a religion.
2. who or what defines the acceptable topics of a forum or sub-forum.
3. who or what judges whether posts are on-topic.
4. who or what judges acceptable conduct, words, or phrases.