Re-evaluating Walled Garden approach

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by taijasi

I dunno, Seattlegal, I'm pretty "resolute" about there being more than one Path to Divinity - and I'd even go a step further and say that these other paths all lead to the same Christian `God.' And so it makes no difference if I am a Hindu or a Muslim, in that respect. Oh, and did I mention, I am resolute...


taijasi

I didn't think I could be shocked by much of anything anymore...but you just proved that wrong!...LOL

[taijasi]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

I didn't think I could be shocked by much of anything anymore...but you just proved that wrong!...LOL

What? That names are nothing more than names? As in "sticks 'n stones?" As in, "A Rose by any other name ... ?"
[oooh, I see. now I get it, Q. but remember, I may as well, just as easily have said, Siva. Makes no difference, does it? that'smy point! lol]

I'm arguing for the walled garden approach, essentially, remember. lol So if I manage nothing more, I think I probably at least represent the NEED for areas where people CAN discuss a particular faith, without feeling like the theme(s) must always be comparative!

Peace,

taijasi

ADDED: I guess I should specify that something I really like about CR is that folks can come here for comparative discussion, but they can also come for very good, scholarly and more "from-the-heart" discussion about individual faiths, or approaches (not that scholarly can't be "from the heart" ... it's just kind of rare).

[Dondi]

I voted for walled gardens.

But, I dunno. I don't see much need in adding any more boards. I see the Belief and Spirituality forum is a good general depot for stretching the ideas of various thoughts in all religious disciplines. I have had no problem in discussing variant forms of a particular religion in there. And the Comparative Studies forum allows for contrast and debate between opposing views. Both are general enough to allow walled barriers to be broken down. Maybe grouping these apart from the specific religion forums might be helpful. Perhaps include sub-catogories as needed.

[wil]

I voted for the walled garden.

I appreciate that various religions have their place to discuss the nuances of their beliefs and are protected from foks looking to shangai or degrade their belief system.

I enjoy going into the other walls and asking questions and getting the variety of answers.

I'm one of those Christians on the edge that has been causing problems. I have been deemed not to be Christian because I don't follow the same tenents as some.

I wouldn't mind a place where the more liberal or progressive Christians can meet and discuss, without being quoted chapter and verse and sent to a fundie Hell.... I actually think that may improve things, and allow those their space without the likes of me interfering. I could easily follow the rules when I am inside of the literal/fundamental Christianity and glady frolick and dance in the safety of a liberal/progressive Christianity board.

[DynoMight]

That's quite the loaded survey you've written there Brian. It seems that you wrote it just to give the appearance of being open to change on the subject without really taking input.

I like the concept of a walled garden but the walls should be made in a way that respects all religions.

Taking the Baha'i Faith out of it rightful place in Abrahamic religions just to appease Christian and Muslim fundamentalists is lame.

Also you could give the Eastern Traditions a little more respect than just calling them Eastern thoughts.

Oh, I had a thought! Let's go down to McDonald's for some cheese burgers.

[seattlegal]

Hey, there's room for everyone here, even those who wish to project taking offence onto third parties.

[FlyByNight]

Originally Posted by seattlegal

Hey, there's room for everyone here, even those who wish to project taking offence onto third parties.

That's complete conjecture on your part seattlegal. For all you know DynoMight could be half Asian Indian, half Polish and a quarter Jew through a maternal lineage. He could be a card carrying Baha'i as well.

Third parties? As far as I am concerned that's just something you made up to avoid responding to legitimate concerns.

[seattlegal]

Originally Posted by FlyByNight

That's complete conjecture on your part seattlegal. For all you know DynoMight could be half Asian Indian, half Polish and a quarter Jew through a maternal lineage. He could be a card carrying Baha'i as well.

Third parties? As far as I am concerned that's just something you made up to avoid responding to legitimate concerns.

**raises an eyebrow**
Which religion do you follow?

Originally Posted by DynoMight

For the purposes of the Comparative Religion forum I am a follower of Matrixism (the path of the One).

For other real world purposes I am sometimes a Christian, sometimes a Buddhist, in frequently a Baha'i and often a Hindu. I haven't had much need to be a Muslim yet but who knows what the future might hold.

Blizzardry, I have a hunch that you are not for real. That is I am not convinced that you are an authentic human being. Perhaps your just the computer simulated mouth piece of some sort of cabal. Or maybe you're a lawyer? Or a Hollywood script writer? Whatever it's all the same to me.

[FlyByNight]

Neither of those quotes are contadictory. He could be as I have suggested and also be exactly what he has said.

Regardless why not quit postulating and just address his legitimate concerns?

[wil]

Namaste Flybynight.

I wonder if we can address 'legitmate concerns'

I am a user, an enjoyer of this site, not a creator, monitor, or maintainer of any sort.

His concerns seem to me to be that this place where people come for free by their own free will and stay as long as they want which was created by others with untold thosands of hours of work over the years. This site which has been improved, updated and modified regularly, each and every time with feedback and consult with the avid users...all with the end in mind to be user friendly and create a space for worldwide discussion area.

His concern is a title is lacking, and providing Hinduism with its own forum highlighted and headlined under that forum, yet its name ommitted from the little italixed discription line above is abusive to the millions of followers of Krishna.

His concern has been voiced and heard, we are discussing this very topic right now and in the other forum. And it appears that those that have been posting here for months, years that are of the same persuasion, don't have the same issues.

So while he has a point and an opinion, there are a number of things at play here. His point and opinion will be considered, and those that have and will provide the sweat equity to this site will look at his and others...and look at what they wish to do with this venture...and make a decision, and modify this site yet again...in their own time...at their own discretion. And then we the users will look and use, or whine and complain, or leave, or keep our mouths shut and play on...knowing we didn't get all that we wanted...this isn't the perfect site in our perfect world....but that we are not willing to go out and spend the time, money and effort it takes to create one...so we stay and play.

These are my unsolicited thoughts (or should I say philosophy) as a user.

Oh and as my point usually isn't all that apparent in what I say sometimes...I'm very appreciative of this site and the management at large. Not to say I don't have concerns and wishes or that I have not been vocal in the past. But I love the guys and gals that make this happen...creators, maintainers and users alike.

[InLove]

Hear, hear, wil!

And it really does pay to do one's homework.

InPeace,
InLove

[seattlegal]

Originally Posted by FlyByNight

That's complete conjecture on your part seattlegal. For all you know DynoMight could be half Asian Indian, half Polish and a quarter Jew through a maternal lineage. He could be a card carrying Baha'i as well.

Third parties? As far as I am concerned that's just something you made up to avoid responding to legitimate concerns.

Originally Posted by seattlegal

**raises an eyebrow**
Which religion do you follow?

Originally Posted by FlyByNight

Neither of those quotes are contadictory. He could be as I have suggested and also be exactly what he has said.

Regardless why not quit postulating and just address his legitimate concerns?

You are looking at the wrong half of his post.
How can he consider his claim for someone else causing offence as legitimate when he so freely does so himself?

[I, Brian]

Interesting that DynoMight and FlyByNight have the same IP addresses, and pretty similar style of posting.

Which single username do you want to use, or do you want me to simply ban all of them?

[FlyByNight]

[quote=I, Brian;82900]Interesting that DynoMight and FlyByNight have the same IP addresses, and pretty similar style of posting.quote]

Conjecture. Pure unadulterated outrageous conjecture.

Why not just address the issues?

After giving it some thought I think that it's probably okay to leave the Baha'is out of the Abrahamic Religion forum. But I really must agree with dyno about the characterization of eastern religions. They are deservng of more respect than referring to them as just "thoughts".

[seattlegal]

Originally Posted by FlyByNight

Conjecture. Pure unadulterated outrageous conjecture.

You crack me up, FlyByNight!
The magic at the core of all religions

Originally Posted by FlyByNight

I've read blizzardry's posts on other threads. He's a heroin pusher. Of course he would say opiate suggester. But the fact is he advocates the use of heroin and lies about the dangers involved with it. On top of that he fancies himself a shaman (i.e. sorcerer) just like the person who ran Carlos Casteneda through the mill for so many years.

Most of this "can you see" what is not really there or here "take this" it will make you throw-up but its good for you are just ways evil people have fun with the good people and line them up to be used like tools.

Just a warning to all the good people out there. There are no auras that people can see nor are there other worlds with there own dimesions. Anyone who lays that on you is either a dupe or they're the kind who would use a date rape drug on you.

Seriously read the works of carlos Casteneda and consider that in his later life he finally figured out that Don Juan was a "demonic entitiy".

Conjecture?

Originally Posted by FlyByNight

Why not just address the issues?

After giving it some thought I think that it's probably okay to leave the Baha'is out of the Abrahamic Religion forum. But I really must agree with dyno about the characterization of eastern religions. They are deservng of more respect than referring to them as just "thoughts".

I've seen these issues addressed in numerous places on the board, here and here, for a couple of examples. Chanting the same thing over and over again until you get an answer you like probably won't do you much good, here.