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Silas · 02-09-2007, 02:38 AM

What does Christ' sacrifical death accomplish?

Prober · 02-09-2007, 04:52 AM

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What does Christ' sacrifical death accomplish?

The short answer? As I understand it, it provides a substitute for our sins so that we may, through grace, enter sinless into paradise.

The long answer would take volumes...

Silas · 02-09-2007, 06:07 PM

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The short answer? As I understand it, it provides a substitute for our sins so that we may, through grace, enter sinless into paradise.

The long answer would take volumes...

So would you agree that the curse of the Law by which God judges us is lifted and therefore there is no condemnation because Christ drained the cup of God's wrath?

Prober · 02-09-2007, 06:39 PM

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So would you agree that the curse of the Law by which God judges us is lifted and therefore there is no condemnation because Christ drained the cup of God's wrath?

As long as we accept the gift - yes.

BlaznFattyz · 02-09-2007, 06:47 PM

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What does Christ' sacrifical death accomplish?

salvation and everlasting life for those who believe in his name and call on him. it also affects those that continue to do evil, the lord will judge the world and the wrath of god's righteousness will be poured out.

Silas · 02-09-2007, 06:53 PM

Note the following scripture:

1John 2:2 "He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. "

Does Christ death acually take away the sins of the world inasmuch as it cancels the sinner's sin bill before God? That's what I'm asking.

Prober · 02-09-2007, 06:56 PM

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Note the following scripture:

1John 2:2 "He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. "

Does Christ death acually take away the sins of the world inasmuch as it cancels the sinner's sin bill before God? That's what I'm asking.

If the individual accepts the gift - Yes.

Silas · 02-09-2007, 06:58 PM

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If the individual accepts the gift - Yes.

Do people not accept the gift because of unbelief?

Prober · 02-09-2007, 07:40 PM

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Do people not accept the gift because of unbelief?

Or contempt, maybe...Generally "Yes".

Silas · 02-09-2007, 08:35 PM

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Or contempt, maybe...Generally "Yes".

Like lying, killing, stealing, blasphemy, etc., is the sin of unbelief paid for by Christ's atoning scarifice?

Prober · 02-09-2007, 09:09 PM

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Like lying, killing, stealing, blasphemy, etc., is the sin of unbelief paid for by Christ's atoning scarifice?

No. (Just kidding

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All sin is paid.

(Where ya goin' here Willis?)

Silas · 02-09-2007, 10:25 PM

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No. (Just kidding

)

All sin is paid.

(Where ya goin' here Willis?)

If all sins are paid for (including the sin of unbelief), what are those in hell paying for?

Prober · 02-09-2007, 10:38 PM

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If all sins are paid for (including the sin of unbelief), what are those in hell paying for?

Is unbelief a sin? By the way, I see where you're going. Interesting thought, I'm listening!

Prober · 02-09-2007, 10:42 PM

If unbelief is a sin (and it may be), one would still have to accept Christ's sacrifice (which would then be belief) to be free of sin. Wouldn't one?

Silas · 02-09-2007, 11:49 PM

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If unbelief is a sin (and it may be), one would still have to accept Christ's sacrifice (which would then be belief) to be free of sin. Wouldn't one?

I wonder if you do see where I'm going with this? Yeah, unbelief is a sin. In my mind, its probably one of the worst? The athesit says there is no God and is a fool, says the psalmsist. I, a Christian, say that there is a God and doubt Him sometimes. What kind of an idiot am I? God knows, I hate when I doubt Him! All that said, I agree with you that someone has to believe before they can be saved. So lets work this out. Why dont some people take the free gift?