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Old 01-15-2006, 08:31 PM   #106 (permalink)
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Re: Prove that the Bible is full of contradictions-- I double dare you!

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Hi e-man. To follow on from my previous post.

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The book of Genesis has two different versions of creation, that make no sense, one says annimals were created first and the other says that they were created second?


No, sorry, it doesn't, espescially if you look at the original Hebrew language and read into the actual wording. Take a deep breath and please analyse the following.......

The Hebrew word rendered history at Genesis 2:4 is 'toledot'. Its meaning is the same as found later on in Genesis where it describes the 'generations of '.....lineage. The connotation of this word implies a historical succession of events..........

The second analysis of the verb 'yatsar' is that the past tense 'formed' is used logically, in that it is saying that God prior to making a 'helper' for Adam, would first bring the animals to Adam to name. ...God, without disturbing the animals that he had already created living outside of Eden, with his omnipotent abilities, formed the animals as special direct creations for Adam to name there and then. So the verb ' formed' in this context is sensible, and the Genesis creation account here is proven to be theologically sound, and grammatically correct....................
Greeting E99. I suppose what you are suggeting to those who read the Bible that if they are in doubt to the meaning of passages to study the original language along with accurate translations.

This is one reason I find it difficult to be an "apologist" for the Bible, simply because of Translations and also those who do not read it as Inspired in the first place. How can jews, muslims and christians feel the OT is inspired unless they also have studied it in the Spirit and by the original language?

Fortunately my brother advised me to read the New Testament first then the OT and I believed that was one of the best advises given to me when I started reading it.

That may not be true for others, but the Christian NT fulfills the Hebrew OT and it actually made the Bible better to understand. For example this passage in Isaiah 65 where the new heaven and earth appears to be related to a "New Jerusalem", which is also mentioned in the NT by Paul in Galatian 4. Surely this has to be "symbolic" as the word for Create is also used in Genesis.

Isaiah 65:17 " For behold, I create [#01254] new heavens and a new earth; And the former shall not be remembered or come to mind. 18 But be glad and rejoice forever in what I create; For behold, I create [#01254] Jerusalem [as] a rejoicing, And her people a joy.

The same words used here in Daniel is also used in revelation concerning the New Jerusalem [broad street/gold].

Daniel 9:25 and you shall know and you shall be intelligent/wise[#07919] from going forth of [a ] word to turn back/return [#07725] and to build up [#01129] Jerusalem until an annointed one [#04899], a prince/ruler [#05057], 7 7's, and 60 and 2 7's, she shall return and she is built broad place/square and sharp/gold/diligent and in distress/constraint of the times.

Thanks for bringing up the translations for us on the Genesis passage. Peace.
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Re: Prove that the Bible is full of contradictions-- I double dare you!

I am amazzed that they have not banned you, usually antichristian views are not tollarated, look at Eman, he is banned?
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Re: Prove that the Bible is full of contradictions-- I double dare you!

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I am amazzed that they have not banned you, usually antichristian views are not tollarated, look at Eman, he is banned?
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