Point of it all?

[AerylonBlackwolf]

Actions do speak louder than words.

However, according to many religions, getting into heaven is not done by deeds alone.


So for those who follow that particular path, they let their belief guide them in the path they think is best. And of course that path is not always best, but sometimes, it is.

I was invited to this site by Mr. Keith. <S>

I am glad to have a place to chat and do research at the same time.

I, like many others, believe things that most would find crazy. I cannot say what I believe though unless someone asks me. The reason for this is that even in this forum, I do not wish to seem to be pushing my beliefs on anyone else. For me, this site will be used for stimulating talk. And not the usual garbage that is online.

We as a people in this world cannot blindly accept things anymore. We have to see to believe. And I think that is a shame. One passage I know of says "...blessed are those who believe, yet haven't seen..." and another passage I know of says "...It is not with one's eyes that tell the truth...It is what one's heart says is true. The eyes, like the mind, are liars...."

So I guess it depends on your point of view and what you believe in.

Just my thoughts. Whatever they are worth.

Aerylon Blackwolf.

[brian]

I, like many others, believe things that most would find crazy.

I like that statement. I used to tell people freely that I was mad during a time of intense asceticism, notably because I experienced so many things beyond the norm. Also met other people who admitted they were mad. Usually a sign of good company.

I guess spiritual revelation itself takes so many forms, allows for so much unknown, that what we bring back ultimately cannot make proper sense to others, precisely because the experience is so personal.

Which again relates to the original subject in that the "point of it all" seems only perceivable from a personal perspective. Although some of us would like to claim a wider objective reality to our own revelations, ultimately such ideas can only presented exactly like so - as ideas - rather than doctrine. Which means writing all the more of a great vehicle for spreading such concepts into a the wider human audience. Not to dictate, but to inspire through our own experiences, as related.

[louis]

Originally Posted by Cloud Woman

What if there was no point to life? How would that change everyone's perceptions?

From Louis....
For me, it would change nothing.... I personaly see no
reason why life (human life) needs meaning or purpose.
Of course, that's just my "ego" talking - I look into my
mind, check off my desires and fulfill them one by one
until I'm satisfied..... A "purpose" implies that I've
inherited some sort of intrinsic obligation or responsibility
just by being part of the human race .
We don't get a choice about being born - if we did, then
maybe we SHOULD feel some sort of "obligation"...
But we just get dumped here by accident - to make the
best of the little time we have.

[Avinash]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth May

What is the ultimate point in life?

I mean, really?

Is religion and faith and belief something that simply makes people feel good about themselves?

Or is there an objective purpose at stake?

Is there really an eternal battle (or just a long one) between good and evil taking place, or does it only do so in our imaginations?

Does Divinity have any real meaning? Or is Divinity defined only by our own meanings? Can Divinity exist beyond our own definitions?

I believe that life is evolving continuously. This means that physically life is evolving but it also means that the consciousness present in lifeforms is evolving or expanding through clash and cohesion.
So the point of life is that the consciousness present in life is unfolding or liberating itself from its bondage in matter and mind.

Religion and faith are largely constructed in such a way as to keep people docile and serving the aims of those who made those religions. At best religions keep people "good" in the limited meaning of the term.

The battle between good and bad is indeed always going on but what is good and bad is not determined by the limited viewpoints of religions but by how our actions affect the spiritual progress of oneself and other beings.

So the general direction of all beings is towards spiritual liberation but where a human being chooses the opposite direction, the actions or intentions involved can be called "bad". Actions are not intrinsically good or bad, it depends on the effect of those actions.