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02-12-2008, 02:33 AM
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Re: Paradise Is Near!
i thought it was candy mountain
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02-12-2008, 04:07 AM
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Abeja Maya
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Re: Paradise Is Near!
Monte Caramelo!
My computer can't handle youtube, so I couldn't see it...
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02-12-2008, 10:20 AM
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Which is exactly what I meant by mountains passing away.. the empires passed away.... the Ottoman, the French, the Austro-Hungarian, the Russian, the British Empires.... they've all passed away... all at once almost.
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all manmade rulerships will pass away when the most high steps into the affairs of man .
And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite; Daniel 2;44 .
then we will have paradise at last
"I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the former heaven and the former earth had passed away, and the sea is no more. I saw also the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: ‘Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his peoples. And God himself will be with them. And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.’"—Rev. 21:1-4.
heavens can mean rulership , and the rulerships of this world will pass away .
and the earthly society of people will also pass away .(a crooked generation)
and only the righteous will be left . and the sea of mankind that is being tossed and stired up will be a thing of the past .
the former things will have passed away . 
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02-12-2008, 01:43 PM
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Re: Paradise Is Near!
Hi Mee,
I was wondering, is there a time frame for this to happen? Like 2 months, 2 years, 2 decades, 2 centuries, 2 millenniums.
Joe
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02-12-2008, 05:50 PM
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Where is the Love???
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Re: Paradise Is Near!
Paradise is what you make it.... :\
Example I could say it is already here....
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02-12-2008, 05:51 PM
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Hi Mee,
I was wondering, is there a time frame for this to happen? Like 2 months, 2 years, 2 decades, 2 centuries, 2 millenniums.
Joe
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no one knows the day or hour when Jehovah has dicided enough is enough.
but those who have not fallen asleep to bible prophecy know just where we are in the stream of time , and they know that Jehovahs day is near .ZEPHENIAH 1;14
At the momment Gods people are in a spiritual paradise ,but when all things have been accomplished it will be a litral paradise as well
many have been healed spiritually. but at a future time it will be physical healing as well, with no more death . yes even death will be swallowed up forever .
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02-12-2008, 06:17 PM
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Re: Paradise Is Near!
Hi Mee,
So are you part of the ones who do know or the ones who do not know?
Joe
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02-12-2008, 06:27 PM
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Hi Mee,
So are you part of the ones who do know or the ones who do not know?
Joe
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i am one of the GREAT CROWD spoken of in REVELATION 7;9-10 and i am hopefully one of the other sheep spoken of in John 10;16 .  and the GREAT CROWD spoken of in revelation 7;9-10 will go on to get through the GREAT TRIBULATION REVELATION 7;14 . and these ones will go on to inherit a paradise earth MATTHEW 5;5
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02-12-2008, 11:42 PM
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Re: Paradise Is Near!
Hi Mee,
I suspect lots of folks hope to be part of the great multitude. As you read through Matt 5:3-12, do all these things take place at the same place/ time?
As for the place and time you really don't seem to know. I suspect no one else does, as indicated by the bible. Please correct me if I am wrong, thanks.
Joe
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02-13-2008, 01:52 AM
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Abeja Maya
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Re: Paradise Is Near!
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Paradise is what you make it.... :\
Example I could say it is already here....
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I agree you can say it's here, especially in your heart.... a heart near to God is in Paradise, I believe, no matter what world you're in.
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02-13-2008, 01:54 AM
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Abeja Maya
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Re: Paradise Is Near!
I have no intention to offend anyone, just giving my point of view. I believe the New Jerusalem is the Baha'i Faith.
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02-13-2008, 09:08 AM
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Re: Paradise Is Near!
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Hi Mee,
I suspect lots of folks hope to be part of the great multitude. As you read through Matt 5:3-12, do all these things take place at the same place/ time?
As for the place and time you really don't seem to know. I suspect no one else does, as indicated by the bible. Please correct me if I am wrong, thanks.
Joe
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as the bible informs us no one knows the day or hour when Jesus will get rid of the wicked , so now is the time to conceal ourselves and to seek Jehovah ,and to seek righteousness.ZEPHENIAH 2;2-3 when the time comes for the great day of Jehovah , people will be for Jehovah ,or against Jehovah, they will have made their own choice , but the loving kindness of Jehovah is allowing time for people to repent and turn around and to respond to the GOODNEWS .matthew 24;14.
how we respond to the GOODNEWS and how we respond to those who are being fed by Jesus will be the diciding factor. MATTHEW 24;45-47
helping christs brothers is the thing to be doing then we can go on into everlasting life in a paradise earth, rather than being like a rebellious goat who does not want to follow the master and the rest of the flock . its always best to follow the right channel then we do not get lost and stray ,
and then we end up with only darkness , and no good leadership.
going it alone is never a good thing to do it will only lead to disaster.
its best to stay with the GREAT CROWD and always remember to keep on waving that symbolic palm branch and then Jehovah and Jesus christ will see just where we stand REVELATION 7;9-10
For God is not unrighteous so as to forget YOUR work and the love YOU showed for his name, in that YOU have ministered to the holy ones and continue ministering.
hebrews 6;10
yes helping christs brothers is the thing to do , and continue to do it . then we can be a sheep who will go on to everlasting life in a paradise earth 
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02-13-2008, 09:19 AM
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I agree you can say it's here, especially in your heart.... a heart near to God is in Paradise, I believe, no matter what world you're in.
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the trouble is though, the world that we live in is filled with death, war, crime, sickness, famine, ect,ect, so there is no paradise at all at the momment , so it will be real good when those things have come to an end , and that is the thing that will be accomplished on a worldwide scale . and Jesus plays a very big part in accomplishing that purpose of God .
24 Next, the end, when he hands over the kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power. 25 For he must rule as king until [God] has put all enemies under his feet. 26 As the last enemy, death is to be brought to nothing. 27 For [God] "subjected all things under his feet." But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that it is with the exception of the one who subjected all things to him. 28 But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.1 corinthians 15;24-28
yes even death will be swallowed up and it is the last of the enemies to go 
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02-13-2008, 09:34 AM
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True Peace and Security in the Restored Paradise
No reason for any tears of sorrow then! Jehovah’s prophetic Word assures us: "The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his peoples. And God himself will be with them. And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore."—Revelation 21:3, 4.
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02-13-2008, 02:49 PM
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Re: Paradise Is Near!
Hi Mee,
"Christs brothers" ? Are not all men brothers? John 10:16 "I have other sheep"..... You don't think G!d will accept anyone who keeps the "golden rule", even though they may not be Christians?
Joe
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