pagan prophecy?

[Sacredstar]

Dear Basstian

But I can show you bible scripture where it says the exact opposite and instructs us not to judge or we will be condemned so then what do you choose?

I choose the positive of biblical scripture everytime for GOD is good!

being love

Kim x

[Sacredstar]

Matthew 7

Judging Others

1“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

Romans 2

God's Righteous Judgment

1You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. 2Now we know that God's judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. 3So when you, a mere man, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God's judgment? 4Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, tolerance and patience, not realizing that God's kindness leads you toward repentance?

5But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God's wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed. 6God “will give to each person according to what he has done.”[a] 7To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. 8But for those who are selfseeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger. 9There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile; 10but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. 11For God does not show favoritism.

12All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. 13For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God's sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. 14(Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law, 15since they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now even defending them.) 16This will take place on the day when God will judge men's secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.


Chapter 11 Corinthians

31: For if we could judge ourselves we should not be judged.

32: But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

Chapter 15 Corinthians

33: For GOD is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Sacredstar

Chapter 11 Corinthians

31: For if we could judge ourselves we should not be judged.

32: But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

Chapter 15 Corinthians

33: For GOD is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

"If we could judge ourselves..." but we can't. A man with a cause can not be judge over that cause. That is a conflict of interest, and biased from the start.

I would not want to be judge of myself, for I would either be too harsh, or too lenient. Most likely the former, rather than the latter.

Finally, the world today shows that man is judging himself, Sacred Star. In fact he has condemned himself to death. Carrying out the execution is merely a matter of time...

v/r

Q

[Basstian]

There is a HUGE HUGE difference between Judging others and Judging things

I have no way to correctly choose anything unless I judge. I cant pick out an apple without using some kind of judgement.

I am allowed to judge things. Writings, prophecy and posts on this board fall under that kind of judgement.

In other words If I said "Evil is Good and Good is Evil. Violence is the only way to solve problems." By your view on judging I would have to say " well thats sounds like a nice view Love love love. "

I wont do it havent done it I dont waiver from this I use the scripture to judge what is of God or not. If it doesnt line up than the Bible judges it not me.
Who art thou to judge your brother.
is not the same as
Who art thou to judge what your brother posts.

[KnightoftheRose]

Who art thou to judge your brother.
is not the same as
Who art thou to judge what your brother posts.

Lol...that's a humorous thought - God giving commandments on proper internet usage.

Thou shalt use DSL, and not 56k, for 56k is an abomination in mine eyes. And whomsoever shalt useth 56k, must thou stoneth.

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by KnightoftheRose

Lol...that's a humorous thought - God giving commandments on proper internet usage.

Thou shalt use DSL, and not 56k, for 56k is an abomination in mine eyes. And whomsoever shalt useth 56k, must thou stoneth.

Oh, oh...I'm using satellite



v/r

Q

[Basstian]

Thou Shalt not spam thy Brothers e-mail

[didymus]

Getting back to pagan prophecy. I haven;\t read all the posts but has anyone mentioned the three wisemen who supposedly went to see Jesus when he was born. They were from the east, possibly persian zoroastrians?

I'm not saying they were pagan because they were zoroastrian, as one pointed out ,pagan originally referred to country folk. This definition has changed and some think of pagans as anyone who dabbles in what some may see as occultish or mystic.

What is more mystic and even occultish than christianity? Before you jump on me look up the word. Better yet I'll do it for you.

occult:1> not revealed, secret 2. abstruse, mysterious 3>of or relating to supernatural agencies, their effects or knowledge of them.

Sounds like christianity to me. I mean this in a good way.

[Virtual_Cliff]

"For in him we live and move and have our being. As some of your own poets have said "We are his offspring". - Acts 17:28

Even St Paul corroborates his argument by reference to a Greek poet.

[KnightoftheRose]

Getting back to pagan prophecy. I haven;\t read all the posts but has anyone mentioned the three wisemen who supposedly went to see Jesus when he was born. They were from the east, possibly persian zoroastrians?

Who can say? Honestly, we aren't given enough information concerning them to make any claims as to who they are or where they came from.

Heh, I get enough pointless speculation on Fox News; I don't really have any desire to apply that to the Bible.

What is more mystic and even occultish than christianity? Before you jump on me look up the word. Better yet I'll do it for you.

occult:1> not revealed, secret 2. abstruse, mysterious 3>of or relating to supernatural agencies, their effects or knowledge of them.

Sounds like christianity to me. I mean this in a good way.

Um, if Christianity is supposed to be "secret" and "mysterious", someone within our ranks has a very loud mouth, lol.

Although, the third definition of "occut" is certainly one element of Christianity. Especially within the context of the OT.

[didymus]

knight of the rose, look at virtualcliff's post by Paul. Very mysterious to one entering the christian faith. How about the body and blood of christ?

[didymus]

KoR, it isn't speculation to say they came from the east. The bible says they saw the star from the east. They brought frankinsense and myr( however you spell it) I am not positive of the origin of frankinsense and myrr but I know they are not native to Palestine area. I'll check origin of these

[Sacredstar]

Dear Q

Originally Posted by Quahom1

Finally, the world today shows that man is judging himself, Sacred Star. In fact he has condemned himself to death. Carrying out the execution is merely a matter of time... Q

I totally agree Q and as GOD says in the bible those that destroy the earth will themselves be destroyed. People do judge themselves it is engrained from parenting through education to the point of looking in the mirror at themselves when they wake up in the morning. 2,000 years and we still have not integrated the basics of judge not ourselves or others.

Love beyiond measure

Kim xx

[KnightoftheRose]

knight of the rose, look at virtualcliff's post by Paul. Very mysterious to one entering the christian faith. How about the body and blood of christ?

Ah, I hadn't thought of it from that perspective. Good point...

KoR, it isn't speculation to say they came from the east. The bible says they saw the star from the east. They brought frankinsense and myr( however you spell it) I am not positive of the origin of frankinsense and myrr but I know they are not native to Palestine area. I'll check origin of these.

Ok, let me pull out the exact quote...

Matthew, 3

9 When they had heard the king, they departed; and lo, the star, which they saw in the east, went before them, till it came and stood over where the young child was.

So, from their perspective, the star was eastward. That means they were west of Bethlehem. Placing them quite some distance away from Persia.

Although, that could be interpreted in such a fashion that they saw the star while being located in the east.

Which only goes to prove my previous point; we cannot accurately determine where the three wise men came from, and to try to do so lands us firmly in the realm of speculation, a place I have no desire to go.

Btw, I did a little research...myrrh typically comes from Africa (Somalia, in specific). So the wise men, if they didn't get it from Africa, got it by trade - which, again, means they could have come from pretty much anywhere.

[Basstian]

So, from their perspective, the star was eastward. That means they were west of Bethlehem.

I just spun my globe and I think that put them in the med. sea LoL