OBE and Reincarnation.

hadeka · 10-28-2004, 12:44 AM

Hi all,

Im new in this forum here.

i wanted to ask about something.

As my religion doesnt believe in Reincarnation.
so untill now, i cant 100% believe in the Reincarnation, so i must read alot about this theory to be sure if i have to 100% believe in it or no.

My religion is "Islam" ,,, so im asking you if anyone here know anything related to Islam and Reincarnation ,,if anyone read any article that contradict or support Reincarnation in Islam ,,pls share it with me.
I would like to know opinions here about Reincarnation and its relationship to Islam that can help in understanding Reincarnation more clearly.

Another thing i want to talk about.

Im an Astral Traveller, and before yesterday, i had an experience.... I Astral travelled.... During this experience, i went to a friend and i was watching him, and it was the first time with me to enter his house!!
After finishing this experience, i was talking to that friend and i was describing what his home looks like to prove to him that i was astral travelling.
i felt that during this experience, my spirit was in another body, not a human body, a fly's body...this small insect !!
and when i told that to my friend, he was surprised because there was a fly in his room and was flying with strange way and stop on his nose etc ... .!!! and that what i realy did during the experience.

Everything he and I said, was real !!

I believe that i realy was this insect !!

i just want to ask ... how come my spirit can interact with another body when im still alive??!
and how come for a human spirit interact with an insect body or any other body other than human body ?!!!

I would like to recieve replies for my two topics and i would like to know any web site that deliver free online books about Reincarnation.

Hope you can understand what i mean .

i would like to know if this is a type,,any type of Reincarnation??

Thnx alot
Hadeka.

mirrorinthefog · 11-10-2004, 05:52 AM

Well I was raised with Islam, and as far as I have read, there isn't anything in the Qur'an that openly contradicts reincarnation. It's been a while, so I may be wrong, but I have actually read translations from scholars who argued the possibility of reincarnation, at least for some.
I don't think that out-of-body experiences are necessarily reincarnation, but it does pose a strong arguement for astral travelling in general (some argue that the Prophet Muhammad did this when he was said to travel to Mescid-el-Aksa). Again, it's been quite a while since I've studied the Qur'an as a whole, so anything I say here you might want to double check for yourself :P but as far as I know there's nothing that directly contradicts these experiences in Islam.

zxg · 09-24-2005, 06:14 PM

Hadeka, try to find "Reincarnation in Islam" by Nader Baig Mirza.

Quahom1 · 09-25-2005, 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hadeka

Hi all,

Im new in this forum here.

i wanted to ask about something.

As my religion doesnt believe in Reincarnation.
so untill now, i cant 100% believe in the Reincarnation, so i must read alot about this theory to be sure if i have to 100% believe in it or no.

My religion is "Islam" ,,, so im asking you if anyone here know anything related to Islam and Reincarnation ,,if anyone read any article that contradict or support Reincarnation in Islam ,,pls share it with me.
I would like to know opinions here about Reincarnation and its relationship to Islam that can help in understanding Reincarnation more clearly.

Another thing i want to talk about.

Im an Astral Traveller, and before yesterday, i had an experience.... I Astral travelled.... During this experience, i went to a friend and i was watching him, and it was the first time with me to enter his house!!
After finishing this experience, i was talking to that friend and i was describing what his home looks like to prove to him that i was astral travelling.
i felt that during this experience, my spirit was in another body, not a human body, a fly's body...this small insect !!
and when i told that to my friend, he was surprised because there was a fly in his room and was flying with strange way and stop on his nose etc ... .!!! and that what i realy did during the experience.

Everything he and I said, was real !!

I believe that i realy was this insect !!

i just want to ask ... how come my spirit can interact with another body when im still alive??!
and how come for a human spirit interact with an insect body or any other body other than human body ?!!!

I would like to recieve replies for my two topics and i would like to know any web site that deliver free online books about Reincarnation.

Hope you can understand what i mean .

i would like to know if this is a type,,any type of Reincarnation??

Thnx alot
Hadeka.

I don't think much on the subject of re-incarnation. However I am familiar with Astral Projection. It happened to me once during a very traumatic situation. Instead of relaxing into the state, the projection was spontaneous. In any event it did not last long (perhaps 3 minutes or so), and I returned rather abruptly when my physical "body" fell out of the chair.

but I did notice certain things. Like my mental faculties were not as sharp as normal (from a logical or analytical perspective), and I could not feel surfaces, though I did sense a kind of pressure when in contact with objects or surfaces. I couldn't speak, yet I could hear, but it was as if hearing through a long tunnel. I could not see my spiritual body, yet I did note that there was a whisp of thread or small chord silvery gray in color that lead from my seated physical body up towards me.

I've never heard of anyone assuming the form of other than a human, but that doesn't mean it isn't possible.

I did observe that concerning my physical body, the phone was still held in my hand against my ear, and my eyes were open, but there was no life (no movement), other than shallow slow breathing.

When my body fell out of the chair and hit the floor, I felt myself pulled back in with a thunderous sounding "CLAP". I was very dazed and confused for a few moments after.

I do not think I would want to do it again.

v/r

Q

InLove · 09-25-2005, 08:46 AM

Regarding astral projection--whatever happened to me actually happened, but I did not will it. And to this day, I am not sure whether it was an out-of-body experience or a dream. It was something very mundane and simple and practical. It was for my safety.

But it was very real.

One does not forget nor dismiss things that are so real.

InPeace,
InLove