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Old 04-11-2005, 07:38 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Mysticism in Regard to Christianity

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The term "mystic" comes from "mystery", or unknown, such as having knowledge from unknown origins (can't be logically explained). Hmmm, sounds an awful lot like "Faith" - the belief in things as yet unseen and the hope for things that have yet to be...
The knowledge is not from unknown origins. Though the heart of Christian mysticism is definitely a Mystery it is not what is generally thought of as a "mystery" in Catholic parlance - i.e. it's not something that can't be explained and must be taken on faith. Rather it is something that can be known, but only to those whose eyes and ears are opened by the Spirit of the Lord. It's more akin to Paul's use of the term in Col 1:27.

And as for me, it isn't belief in things as yet unseen or hope for things that have yet to be, but quite the opposite in fact. It is experience of things as they are.
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The knowledge is not from unknown origins. Though the heart of Christian mysticism is definitely a Mystery it is not what is generally thought of as a "mystery" in Catholic parlance - i.e. it's not something that can't be explained and must be taken on faith. Rather it is something that can be known, but only to those whose eyes and ears are opened by the Spirit of the Lord. It's more akin to Paul's use of the term in Col 1:27.

And as for me, it isn't belief in things as yet unseen or hope for things that have yet to be, but quite the opposite in fact. It is experience of things as they are.
but now you are sounding like a Celtic Christian, which never set well with Romans in the first place...

just a thought.

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but now you are sounding like a Celtic Christian, which never set well with Romans in the first place...

just a thought.

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How so? When I think of "Celtic Christians" I think of dogged trinitarians (which I couldn't care less about) and a big emphasis on Mary.

Though I am Celtic . . . and I like irritating Romans sometimes . . .
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How so? When I think of "Celtic Christians" I think of dogged trinitarians (which I couldn't care less about) and a big emphasis on Mary.

Though I am Celtic . . . and I like irritating Romans sometimes . . .
...oh you mean the same Celts who could not help but scribble anecdotes and baudy quips in the margines next to the scriptures they were studiously translating into several different languages during the 6th and 7th centuries?...those "trinitarians"?

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