My Inter Faith Call to JIhad (Edited version)

[amlhabibi2000]

I guess the reason I have not joined one is because I have not found one that shares my beliefs in the same way.

I do not rule it out, I am still looking.

It is my hope that such a group might present themselves to me or that I might find this group that believes as I do.

Thank you for the ideas.

[lunamoth]

Originally Posted by amlhabibi2000

I guess the reason I have not joined one is because I have not found one that shares my beliefs in the same way.

I do not rule it out, I am still looking.

It is my hope that such a group might present themselves to me or that I might find this group that believes as I do.

Thank you for the ideas.

Hello, amlhabibi, welcome to CR!

Still trying to understand your objective. Are your hoping to start an Islamic reform movement or are you trying to organize an interfaith group? I agree that people of different religions should try to overcome the artificial barriers we set up between one another. Internet discussions such as you find here at CR are great as a start for understanding each other and providing a basis for friendships and discussion. To actually do something about world peace from a faith-based foundation I think the best thing to do is get involved at a local level in interfaith activities. If you live in a small town you might have to be the one to initiate it! There are a number of posters here who have experience in interfaith initiatives, even a few threads started if you are interested in joining the discussions.

peace,
lunamoth

[amlhabibi2000]

I guess my objective is to encourage a new way of looking at Islam and religion in general and to bring everyone together on a common goal peace on earth and within each of us..

I also believe We are the Messiah, the Prophets....

see thread with same name.

At the moment I am working on getting my life in order then I believe everything will fall intpo place....

I will check out the threads you mentioned. Thank you

[Awaiting_the_fifth]

Originally Posted by amlhabibi2000

You will find that I answered that issue when I said all religions and people with no religion come under the umbrella of Islam as the word Islam refers to a state of being and not a religion.

I have to say I think this is a very narrow minded idea. You claim that everyone is part of Islam because it is the state of submission to God (Allah or whatever name you give him)

Have you ever considered that some people are not of the state of mind of submitting to God.

I do not submit to the will of God.

Having grown up in an enforced Christian background in which I was given no religious freedom and made to feel inferior by my family and teachers for rejecting it, I have just about had enough of Christians and Muslims who assume that everyone is just like them deep down. Jews never seem to act so egotistically, wonder why that is?

You seem to claim tolerance whilst imposing your Islamic ideals on the entire human populace.

Please understand that I am not talking about all Christians and Muslims here, just the those ones of the same mind as the individual who started this thread.

I think the world would be a much better place if religions would refrain from trying to convert people.

[truthseeker]

Interesting. Maybe even a bit shocking. But I admire the ambition to reach out in a wider range of understanding and incorporating the world. It's one thing to bring the world unto you and it is something else entirely to step out and accept the world. I wonder what provoked the change in thought process?

[Abogado del Diablo]

Originally Posted by Awaiting_the_fifth

Having grown up in an enforced Christian background in which I was given no religious freedom and made to feel inferior by my family and teachers for rejecting it, I have just about had enough of Christians and Muslims who assume that everyone is just like them deep down. Jews never seem to act so egotistically, wonder why that is?

You seem to claim tolerance whilst imposing your Islamic ideals on the entire human populace.

Perhaps an Inter-Jihad Call to Faith would be more appropriate.

[habibi2000]

To alieviate any confusion I am the same person as amlhabibi2000 I forgot my password and my old email does not work any more because I changed servers.


I want to say I do not force my beliefs on anyone.

I suggest reading the information on my web pages to clear up any confusion.

Yes my A call to Inter Jihad might do but I like it the way I wrote it.

No offense I just think what I wrote makes sense, I share it is hopes I will find like minded people if not then I know it has made a difference in me and this is what counts anything else I have no control over

Anne Marie Elderkin-Habibi.

[Awaiting_the_fifth]

After reading your website I have not changed my view one bit.

You use islamic (possibly arabic?) words throughout which I do not understand because I AM NOT A MUSLIM.

Second, while you may have a point about all monotheistic religions being closely linked, you seem to have no understanding of eastern religions at all. You say Budda was tested under the Bhodi tree in the same way Jesus was tested in the dessert. no. Buddha achieved a wonderful liberation under the bodhi tree, and the only person he had to contend with was his own deluded sense of self.

Your website says nothing that your original post does not say, it is an extended version of the same claim that "We are all muslims because we all submit to the will of God." Let me say this once again.

I DO NOT SUBMIT TO THE WILL OF GOD.

It is possible that my will and his may co-incide once in a while but that does not mean that I am in any way submitting to him. How could I submit to the will of a being that I do not believe exists?

If your meaning is that we are all muslims because we all act in a virtuous way for our own spiritual ends then you are confusing the word "Muslim" with the word "Spiritual" and even then I would disagree because not everyone is spiritual.

Why dont you try to turn this around and see it from a different point of view. What do you think of this,

"Everyone in the world is a Buddhist at some basic level because we are all subject to the law of Karma."

I eagerly await your response.

[habibi2000]

Interesting about being Buddhist idea, yes one could say that.

As for the other we are all intitled to our opinions.

At the root of all this I simply believe that we are all major stake holders in the World and in the spiritual world.

I believe that we can and do make a difference and if we try a little harder we can realize personal and world peace.

One need comprehend I guess where I am coming from but that takes time.

Interesting thoughts....

[Awaiting_the_fifth]

now if you'd just said that in the first place I would have agreed whole heaertedly. I was only objecting to the spicific use of Islam as the common spirituality.

[habibi2000]

Glad I could clear up some of the confusion....


There are many approaches, just trying to figure out which one will be the best in the long run....