Moderator against Member Religion against Religion - Page 3

I, Brian · 08-29-2008, 05:30 PM

Just another quick pointer as well - as Tao mentioned, the style of moderating has changed a lot over the years - finding a balance between being too restrictive and too free has been quite a challenge.

We're about to rebrand with a new domain, and I'm expecting to keep a close eye on everything and help ensure the forums run as smoothly as possible.

There are a few new things to try out, but overall, the aim is to make this place more fun.

Sure, heated arguments will come up - I appreciate that - my concern is to simply ensure these do not become personal.

And as before, as above, if anyone has any problems with any individual moderator actions, I'm here to hear about it.

Alex P · 08-29-2008, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by I, Brian

There are a few new things to try out, but overall, the aim is to make this place more fun.

Thas' how we rolls....

LenoBee · 08-29-2008, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

To the OP / LenoBee,

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Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

I have had some long running heated, sometimes personalised, 'debates' with a few of the Mods here but not one of them has ever pulled the Mod Card on me. Probably if anyone here stretches the rules to their limit here it is me. And I have been warned.

I think the rules used to be a bit more rigerously enforced than they now are and it has resulted in some passionate debates that were uncommon when I first arrived. Sometimes on a thread I am faced with multiple posters challenging me very personally because they believe that is what I am doing to them. Maybe some would just give up, being 1 against many can get tedious. But the heat of a good debate soon passes. The differences are forgotten then rediscovered and then forgotten again. And we can all go to the lounge and relax, joke and banter to our hearts content.

There is no such thing as the perfect forum. But this one is about as good as they get. I do not see it as needing any alteration.

tao

Thank you. I appreciate you sharing your experience, Tao_Equus

LenoBee · 08-29-2008, 05:38 PM

IBrian, if you are the owner, you did a calamitous job at addressing it. You received nothing, as if it was never there. I contemplated this in reflection as it was being composed. If your moderators are going to enforce the COC for you, then they all need to be examples of it.

Alex P · 08-29-2008, 05:40 PM

The guy's been busy ;/ give him a break.. He has stated he will be keeping a close eye on the new domain and all bans shall be removed... He is addressing it.... What more can he offer? His blood?

LenoBee · 08-29-2008, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by I, Brian

Just another quick pointer as well - as Tao mentioned, the style of moderating has changed a lot over the years - finding a balance between being too restrictive and too free has been quite a challenge.

We're about to rebrand with a new domain, and I'm expecting to keep a close eye on everything and help ensure the forums run as smoothly as possible.

There are a few new things to try out, but overall, the aim is to make this place more fun.

Sure, heated arguments will come up - I appreciate that - my concern is to simply ensure these do not become personal.

And as before, as above, if anyone has any problems with any individual moderator actions, I'm here to hear about it.

This has nothing to do with it either. You are hearing about it, but deflecting.
I will not be cyber harassed. Please delete my account before I will submit to it. Thank you for your time.

LenoBee · 08-29-2008, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex P

The guy's been busy ;/ give him a break.. He has stated he will be keeping a close eye on the new domain and all bans shall be removed... He is addressing it.... What more can he offer? His blood?

I do not want blood.
He would be addressing the moderator and situation in question.

I, Brian · 08-29-2008, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LenoBee

Some of you are masters of deflection. This has turned right back into making the new members and members look like the only bad people when there are indeed times when those in office also need correction. If you are going to point out the flaws in members then you need to be willing to point out the same flaws in the moderators and they need to be able to accept it and acknowledge it. If you expect the members to abide by the COC then your moderators need to set the example.

I've already told you, I'm here - but you haven't sent a single complaint to me.

In fact, you've only been here a short while yet a quarter of your posts so far are focused on telling us what a crap board run by crap people we have here.

You've raised a public discussion - fine - but unless you're going to illustrate any complaints to me personally, there's nothing to act upon.

In the meantime, it's worth remembering that this is a discussion community about religion - it is not a discussion community about the discussion community.

If you have something to really complain about, then you are welcome to PM me - otherwise, it's worth deciding whether a community you obviously so dislike at the beginning is somewhere you really should be.

Alex P · 08-29-2008, 05:51 PM

I think you will find this is happening... The mods admin have their own forum here... And I tend to observe everyone and their movments... And I can tell you that there has been quite some movement in that forum latley... I think if you are finding their are conversations here you wish to join in with then perhaps just give this site one last chance? Brian has stated he will now be keeping control and watching he has already shut a thread down... I think you shall see a big change.

I, Brian · 08-29-2008, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LenoBee

This has nothing to do with it either. You are hearing about it, but deflecting.
I will not be cyber harassed. Please delete my account before I will submit to it. Thank you for your time.

I'm not hearing anything - you're shouting incoherently.

Send me an example of what you're complaining about and I'll be happy to look into it.

LenoBee · 08-29-2008, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex P

I think you will find this is happening... The mods admin have their own forum here... And I tend to observe everyone and their movments... And I can tell you that there has been quite some movement in that forum latley... I think if you are finding their are conversations here you wish to join in with then perhaps just give this site one last chance? Brian has stated he will now be keeping control and watching he has already shut a thread down... I think you shall see a big change.

Very Well.

path_of_one · 08-29-2008, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex P

That is cause the other member was banned....

That is not true. I think LB is referring to Bandit. Bandit has not been banned at all. His participation has been very intermittent the last year, but not as a result of any moderator action against him. Bandit and I have chatted through PM and he is occasionally around.

LenoBee · 08-29-2008, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by I, Brian

I've already told you, I'm here - but you haven't sent a single complaint to me.

In fact, you've only been here a short while yet a quarter of your posts so far are focused on telling us what a crap board run by crap people we have here.

You've raised a public discussion - fine - but unless you're going to illustrate any complaints to me personally, there's nothing to act upon.

In the meantime, it's worth remembering that this is a discussion community about religion - it is not a discussion community about the discussion community.

If you have something to really complain about, then you are welcome to PM me - otherwise, it's worth deciding whether a community you obviously so dislike at the beginning is somewhere you really should be.

I never said this was a crap board nor suggest the people are crap . I never said I dislike it. Please stop inserting things that have nothing to do with this. I did make it clear that if I am here or not here, makes no difference to me. That does not mean I insulted this forum.

If you cannot examine it out from your moderator forum and my formal complaint already made, then I expect nothing more to be done in private than in public.

We are leaving the country for a couple of weeks to visit one of my children and I do not wish to take this with. I may pm at a later date and I may not.

Thank you again for this meeting.

I, Brian · 08-29-2008, 08:04 PM

LenoBee, you haven't made any kind of formal complaint - you have started a whining thread, and despite every invitation to show me specific examples to look into, you simply ignore my offer to help and keep on whining.

There are nearly 9,000 discussion threads on this forum relating to over 150,000 individual posts. Which one do you want me to look at?

You started a thread criticising this forum, and the majority of your contribution has been towards slamming the place, but not taking up any single offer to help.

I have 3 business reports to complete tonight and it's already 7pm, and yet you seem to think I'll enjoy a merry jaunt sorting through 150k posts looking for the individual one whose nuance aggrieved you?

I'm sorry - I make myself available to help despite a truly punishing workload, and if all you can say is "I may pm you an d I may not" is exactly the cryptic kind of time wasting I have absolutely no time for.

To boot - please send me a list of complaints referenced by URLs and I will be happy to look into each and every individual one. New member or not, I will listen to any and every complaint and criticism and try to act. What I don't have time for is the presumption that I have time to try and discover people's problems when they refuse to communicate them.

In the meantime, I'll close this thread so if you want to take things further, you can do it by PM as I've repeatedly invited.