miracles of Quran

[pharma4ever]

Originally Posted by mansio

Pharma4ever

See verse 7:179
"... They have hearts and they do not understand with them,
they have eyes and they do not see with them,
they have ears and they do not hear with them..."

at 1st ,if i came to the christian forum telling about discrepancies of bible,u will delete my posts
this forum is for questions of non-muslims
and for muslims discussion
but okay,i love the religious discussion
i think that u don't have problems with hearing with ears
nor seeing with eyes
but ur problem is with understanding with hearts
this is not the original meaning of Quran words in arabic
but it's a translation
and in Quran,
u understand with ur brain
but u accept the truth with ur heart
u may read about islam and discover that it's the truth
that hapens by ur brain
but ur heart can accept this or not
if u have a good heart full of charity,u will follow the truth wherever it was
but if ur heart is not of charity ,u will think saying:
my family are christians
my friends and all i know are christians
converting is difficult and full of sacrifices
then although ur brain knew the truth,but ur heart don't wanna follow it
look also 22:46
(Truly it is not their eyes that are blind, but their hearts which are In their breasts.)
so,when hearts are blind,it don't search for truth nor follow it
but it follow itself
heart follow himself not follow truth
like what?
if u know that killing is forbidden
but u love to kill someone
so now ur heart want something which is not the truth
will ur heart in this case follow the truth or follow his willing?
this is the Quran meaning
because God will not harm u if u r not intelligent
as He is the one who give us intelligence
but u will not be loved by God if the intelligence he gave to gave u knowledge which u refuse because u didn't love it
and the love is by heart
u r welcomed

[I, Brian]

Originally Posted by pharma4ever

when we search for the truth we are ready to visit sites
u can call it a journet to another world with sites of the other opinion

Yes, but CR isn't an advertising forum for any particular "truth" - simply where people can discuss.

[pharma4ever]

Originally Posted by I, Brian

Yes, but CR isn't an advertising forum for any particular "truth" - simply where people can discuss.

i didn't make advertising for sites
just mentioning the source of my information
and saying to the people who read my words if u want more details about that topic visit that site.
so,if someone is interested in that topic ,he can find more
that is all

[I, Brian]

That's my point - we're really here to discuss our beliefs from a personal level, rather than set up something that effectively advertises a specific faith and actively tries to promote it to persons outside of that specific faith.

Anyway, I have let this thread stand, but like I said, I'd prefer to see more personalised discussions.

[pharma4ever]

Originally Posted by I, Brian

That's my point - we're really here to discuss our beliefs from a personal level, rather than set up something that effectively advertises a specific faith and actively tries to promote it to persons outside of that specific faith.

Anyway, I have let this thread stand, but like I said, I'd prefer to see more personalised discussions.

i started to understand u
u mean that the problem is not in the typing of the address of the site
but it's about the subject of topic??
then ,why we are here?
for answering questions of others only or what?
i started to feel that i don't understand!
i thaught we r here to answer questions of ppl
to view our religion and tell about it
and so on
u can see that ppl see islam only from the glasses of Ben Laden and Alqaeda
so,at last
what is the type of topics accepted here?
only questions or what?
thanks for ur patience

[I, Brian]

No problem at all.

It's that I want to CR as for raising and answering questions - someone asks about Islam, Muslims reply - a Muslim raises a question about something they aren't sure of - other Muslims reply.

I really do appreciate your trying to reply to very real attitudes - but you are answering a question in this thread that hasn't really been asked, and by making repeated posts on the subject it's not really given anyone opportunity to join in as a discussion point that you may have liked to raise.

Anyway, as before, this thread is informative, but really not the sort of format that's preferred.

Put it down as a learning experience, but feel free to start other threads, and if I have reservations about those, I'll let you know.

[pharma4ever]

Originally Posted by I, Brian

No problem at all.

It's that I want to CR as for raising and answering questions - someone asks about Islam, Muslims reply - a Muslim raises a question about something they aren't sure of - other Muslims reply.

I really do appreciate your trying to reply to very real attitudes - but you are answering a question in this thread that hasn't really been asked, and by making repeated posts on the subject it's not really given anyone opportunity to join in as a discussion point that you may have liked to raise.

Anyway, as before, this thread is informative, but really not the sort of format that's preferred.

Put it down as a learning experience, but feel free to start other threads, and if I have reservations about those, I'll let you know.

thank u very much for ur explanation,boss
and ur notes will be in mind on next times(if Allah wishes)